Indeed - but that may be, in part, a reflection that they were both in a club which some members felt dragged its heels in accepting SRT for club use, preferring to recommend that SRT should only be individuals' choice. (Without checking dates, wasn't that not too long after the fatal accident at GG when a polypropylene rope severed at a rub point? That accident, the first British SRT fatality, put SRT back for quite a while, as I remember.) It's interesting that you picked up on that though as it reveals just how long it did take for SRT to become "mainstream". I suspect Whernside Manor staff should take a lot of the credit for helping that along.