nearlywhite said:
Kenilworth said:
17 hours is also not enough time to begin to appreciate RF.
You're not the only expert mate - it wasn't my first time there (even done some original exploration). And you can get a good appreciation of it if you're quick - I think there's reason to be impressed given the size and weight of the kit carried and the speed with which it was moved plus filming plus a bit of touristing.
I hope it does get visited by a lot more people as there's no point in it being there if cavers don't see it.
And I highly recommend the trip report - Paul did a smashing job.
I am by no means an expert on Rumbling Falls. My expertise ends about a half mile to the east of the pit entrance.
You cannot appreciate anything of substance in a day or two, especially if you are quick, and I am extremely difficult to impress. Give yourself a hand if you like. You could have carried a drum of cucumbers and caved with all your fingers tied together and done something really special.
There's no point in it being there if cavers don't see it? What a lot of presumptuous nonsense. Do you have a wife or woman? Do you hope lots of other fellows take her to bed? No point in a lovely body if everyone and their uncle isn't screwing it after all. And no one had a clue what fidelity might have to do with caving.
The earth has significance beyond our ability to appreciate, especially if we're a lot of blockheads as so many cavers appear to be. If you had spent half your life watching things you love, things of immense value (known and unknown) be diminished and demolished in the name of self-indulgent tourism, you might have learned to speak more carefully and insightfully.