I was tidying up the lines between Jingle Junction and Jingle Bell in upstream Hurtle on Saturday, and yet again I found a load of tech line in there.
There was a good length of 3mm white nylon line from the top of the void, up to Frog hall - I've stripped it out and replaced it with something more suitable. Although it was better than the usual 1mm shite I find in there, its still completely inappropriate for the conditions.
Please please please, can people stop using white nylon line in caves in the Yorkshire Dales, no matter how thick it is. White nylon line is very soft and quickly abraids, especially in high flow situations like The Void. After a single flood, that line would of been ripped to shreds and could of been a serious entanglement hazard. White nylon line is also hard to feel in gloved, cold hands as its so soft, quickly goes brown in the peat stained water so is difficult to see and is difficult to manage and remove once its fucked. If you get to some broken line in a cave in the Yorkshire Dales, then either fix it with something appropriate (6mm polyprop or plastic coated washing line), or leave it alone and the local divers will fix it (if you post on public side of the CDG forum, somebody will get onto it pretty quick). I often find this type of line in Hurtle and eventually it will kill somebody - please dont do it.
If non CDG people are laying line in caves in the Dales, then consider joining the CDG. We are a fairly friendly bunch and have a lot of experience laying line in caves in UK conditions, so can help train you in best practice. At the very least, if people are altering lines, then can they post a message on the public side of the CDG forum, so the entire community knows whats going on.
Thanks
Ben Wright
CDG Northern Section.
There was a good length of 3mm white nylon line from the top of the void, up to Frog hall - I've stripped it out and replaced it with something more suitable. Although it was better than the usual 1mm shite I find in there, its still completely inappropriate for the conditions.
Please please please, can people stop using white nylon line in caves in the Yorkshire Dales, no matter how thick it is. White nylon line is very soft and quickly abraids, especially in high flow situations like The Void. After a single flood, that line would of been ripped to shreds and could of been a serious entanglement hazard. White nylon line is also hard to feel in gloved, cold hands as its so soft, quickly goes brown in the peat stained water so is difficult to see and is difficult to manage and remove once its fucked. If you get to some broken line in a cave in the Yorkshire Dales, then either fix it with something appropriate (6mm polyprop or plastic coated washing line), or leave it alone and the local divers will fix it (if you post on public side of the CDG forum, somebody will get onto it pretty quick). I often find this type of line in Hurtle and eventually it will kill somebody - please dont do it.
If non CDG people are laying line in caves in the Dales, then consider joining the CDG. We are a fairly friendly bunch and have a lot of experience laying line in caves in UK conditions, so can help train you in best practice. At the very least, if people are altering lines, then can they post a message on the public side of the CDG forum, so the entire community knows whats going on.
Thanks
Ben Wright
CDG Northern Section.