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Wanted: Second hand gear for expedition!

adamej

New member
I’m collecting second hand caving gear for an expedition this summer! In particular, what we’re looking for are:

Tackle bags
Bolting hammers
Sleeping bags

Please reply if you have any of these and are looking to sell
 

topcat

Active member
No hammer, but I have a Petzl driver and a few spits if that's of use?

I m selling sleeping bags, but you won't be interested in these as they are ubber expensive, even second hand! :))

TC
 

Leclused

Active member
Austria ==> alpine caving so you will need high quality camping gear. I'm not sure if you will find that 2nd hand.

To give you a idea what we use as collectief camping gear on our Anialarra expeditions
- ve25 norh face tents
- North face sleeping bags (4 season)
- exped sleeping mats

As rigging gear I would go for a hammer drill instead of bolting hamers. You will lose to much time with bolting hamers imho. Rigging in alpine caves takes a lot of time and gear. Rigging a multi-drop pit will take to much time with hamers.
 

andrewmcleod

Well-known member
As rigging gear I would go for a hammer drill instead of bolting hamers. You will lose to much time with bolting hamers imho. Rigging in alpine caves takes a lot of time and gear. Rigging a multi-drop pit will take to much time with hamers.
They have drills; you still need a bolting hammer though (for testing rock quality, cleaning rock surfaces, hammering in your through bolts etc...)

For sleeping bags you can have at most two of the following: cheap, light, warm. We choose cheap(ish) and warm for our Austrian adventures, but then our sleeping bags live down at a fixed camp (in drybags with carbide) so we don't have to drag them in and out all the time, unlike the CUCC exped.
 

nobrotson

Active member
Austria ==> alpine caving so you will need high quality camping gear. I'm not sure if you will find that 2nd hand.

To give you a idea what we use as collectief camping gear on our Anialarra expeditions
- ve25 norh face tents
- North face sleeping bags (4 season)
- exped sleeping mats
I'm glad you're so flush with cash - this is a student expedition so we don't have the funds for such luxurious conditions.
 

nobrotson

Active member
Just to clarify a bit what we're looking for and why:

Tackle bags:
As we will likely have at least 2 underground camps this year, we're after some more bigger bags to carry camping kit. However, its always good to have more bags, so anything that will hold 100 m of rope or more would be greatly appreciated. These bags need to be tough and well-designed - not the big petzl ones with stupid buckles etc that will break, more along the lines of Beast Big Moma or Warmbac bags.

Bolting hammers:
As Andy says, we're not going to be handbolting, but you'd find it quite hard to hammer in a through bolt with a drill! Any brand is good, as long as its not utterly ancient.

Sleeping bags:
We tend to use our own personal bags underground, though we have a few communal 3-4 season Snugpak pits that have served us well in the past. It would be nice to have a few more 3-4 season synthetic sleeping bags if anyone is willing to part with them for a sensible price. Weight and pack size don't need to be anything high spec. These aren't caving specific so UKCaving probably not the best place to find these compared to eBay, FB marketplace, UKClimbing etc.
 

Leclused

Active member
I'm glad you're so flush with cash - this is a student expedition so we don't have the funds for such luxurious conditions.

It is for us also a struggle to get the funds for that. To give you some idea of how we collect our funds :)

- private sponsoring (some firms/organisations do that and have procedures for that perhaps ukcaving.com has a procedure for that hint hing :) )
- We get some exploration budget from the speleological federations in Belgium (VVS and UBS). To obtain these budgets we write articles about the expeditions to publish in the magazines of the federations (Spelerpes / Regards).
- During the yearly fair of the community we have a stand with a mobile speleobox. And for a small fee people can do the box. All members of the club are helping during the weekend so that as much as possible people can go throught the box.
-...

With those funds we can buy the goods we need. But as said it is always a struggle.
 

Leclused

Active member
Just to clarify a bit what we're looking for and why:

Tackle bags:
As we will likely have at least 2 underground camps this year, we're after some more bigger bags to carry camping kit. However, its always good to have more bags, so anything that will hold 100 m of rope or more would be greatly appreciated. These bags need to be tough and well-designed - not the big petzl ones with stupid buckles etc that will break, more along the lines of Beast Big Moma or Warmbac bags.

Bolting hammers:
As Andy says, we're not going to be handbolting, but you'd find it quite hard to hammer in a through bolt with a drill! Any brand is good, as long as its not utterly ancient.

Sleeping bags:
We tend to use our own personal bags underground, though we have a few communal 3-4 season Snugpak pits that have served us well in the past. It would be nice to have a few more 3-4 season synthetic sleeping bags if anyone is willing to part with them for a sensible price. Weight and pack size don't need to be anything high spec. These aren't caving specific so UKCaving probably not the best place to find these compared to eBay, FB marketplace, UKClimbing etc.

Do you search on free-cycle groups in your area? I follow several of these groups and from time to time you can find usefull things.

FB "Freecycle Camping" search
 

thehungrytroglobite

Well-known member
It is for us also a struggle to get the funds for that. To give you some idea of how we collect our funds :)

- private sponsoring (some firms/organisations do that and have procedures for that perhaps ukcaving.com has a procedure for that hint hing :) )
- We get some exploration budget from the speleological federations in Belgium (VVS and UBS). To obtain these budgets we write articles about the expeditions to publish in the magazines of the federations (Spelerpes / Regards).
- During the yearly fair of the community we have a stand with a mobile speleobox. And for a small fee people can do the box. All members of the club are helping during the weekend so that as much as possible people can go throught the box.
-...

With those funds we can buy the goods we need. But as said it is always a struggle.
could you explain what a mobile speleobox is please? :)
 

tomferry

Well-known member
Just to let you no I cannot view that shows this message .
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That’s a impressive day count (y)
There's a good account of this adventure - with lots of pictures - here: https://earbypotholeclub.co.uk/?page_id=719
 

tomferry

Well-known member
Just to clarify a bit what we're looking for and why:

Tackle bags:
As we will likely have at least 2 underground camps this year, we're after some more bigger bags to carry camping kit. However, its always good to have more bags, so anything that will hold 100 m of rope or more would be greatly appreciated. These bags need to be tough and well-designed - not the big petzl ones with stupid buckles etc that will break, more along the lines of Beast Big Moma or Warmbac bags.

Bolting hammers:
As Andy says, we're not going to be handbolting, but you'd find it quite hard to hammer in a through bolt with a drill! Any brand is good, as long as its not utterly ancient.

Sleeping bags:
We tend to use our own personal bags underground, though we have a few communal 3-4 season Snugpak pits that have served us well in the past. It would be nice to have a few more 3-4 season synthetic sleeping bags if anyone is willing to part with them for a sensible price. Weight and pack size don't need to be anything high spec. These aren't caving specific so UKCaving probably not the best place to find these compared to eBay, FB marketplace, UKClimbing etc.
You can find these usually at car boot sales for £1-£2 , Or very similar and just cut the ends to the size you desire , I haven’t seen used bolting hammers come up before but I am not “ancient”

 

Ian Ball

Well-known member
The British Speleological Expedition to the Himalayas 1970 went by double-decker bus. It made it all the way there, but it gave up the ghost on the way back, somewhere in Turkey.

The subject of the excellent publication


Cave bus is a venture a little closer to home.
 
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