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Lava palava in la Palma
« on: November 15, 2014, 05:53:22 pm »
Ok.
Going to to try and start a new post of our Lava Palava trip to La palma in the canary islands.
I say try because im currently at 37000ft, on a norwegian airlines flight with free wifi, trying to upload images for the first time at this height. It would have been a lot easier if Flickr hadnt decided to bomb my log on out as i dont have a yahoo

To start, the flight, free wifi, norweigan airlines, flight £74 return with no luggage.
Upside down image.

So far, during the fliht, ive received an email from Beet about my Distox calibration problems, whilst also arranging with our Spanish friends to borrow another Distox wholst out on the island.
Modern tech is great :-)

More this week as we hopefully have internet at our accomodation in Todoque, La Palma.
Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.

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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2014, 06:09:19 pm »


cap n chris n me on the flight.Ok i havn't got to grips with posting the images the right way up but the connection is slow. ( wifi at 37000 ft) More on the caves tomorrow.
Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.

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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2014, 07:33:15 pm »
No wine was harmed in the posting of these images.
Wot tiny writing!

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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2014, 08:00:43 pm »
I hope you're not trying to join the 'mile-high club'.  ;D

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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2014, 08:22:13 pm »
Oh for a like button....

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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 09:02:39 pm »
I/we have posted an interim trip report elsewhere:

http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=17375.msg228575#msg228575

Meanwhile, we have (a) plenty of other photographs (b) plenty of tales to tell (c) masses of plans (d) another trip to the Canaries next week....



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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2015, 08:44:04 pm »
Just returned from a week in La Palma and very nice it was too. Always a good start to leave Manchester with a few cms of snow and 4.5hours later, land on a sunny island with 19degC T-shirt weather.

We rented a house on the west side of the island as this has better weather. The east side suffers from the trade winds.

We did the following Lava Tubes, some on our own, others with members of the local caving club.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tebexcorade/286174134767766?fref=ts

Tigalate A, long lava tube, example of Phase IV ceramic bowl insitu - these bowls were used to collect clean water. 4wd needed to get near the entrance

Tigalate B, collapsing because of proximity to Barranco side (Barranco is a steep sided erosion gully)

Hondo Miranda - permission from the mental illness institute required as the entrance was discovered during the building of their property - we assisted with some video and photography in there - some nice examples of benches and lava flows

Hondo Bejenado - a permit needs to be got from the Director of the National Park - you are escorted throughout by a Park Ranger who drives you by 4wd to near the entrance - lots of animal skeletons in there, some good lava varieties - we found a live Ratentis spider specimen half way in - also photographed the lizard skeleton, a species now extinct on the island

Cardos - good variety, very tight squeeze fortunately optional as neither of use could get close, we found the nativity scene !, you know you are near the entrance because of the dead animal smell

Rincon I (Gofio) - old gypsum floored tunnel accessed in Barranco side by climbing up old tree trunk

Susi - a small tube with a lot of variety, tube maze, aa flooring, lava sump

We took a day off and hiked round Cumbrecito and up to Pico Bejenado. Fantastic views of the Caldera. Some petroglyphs. Good view of the foehn effect on the ridge as the trade wind cloud from the east side spills over to the west.

Cestos - our last cave - very different requiring SRT to go down an old lava vent into a large chamber, the walls of which are old ash layers - very crumbly but beautiful colours. We did a survey of the chamber and afterwards played with a DistoX and PocketTopo demonstrating their use to the local club.

Finally drove up to the volcano summit to admire the observatories and a cloud filled caldera before heading to the airport. We flew with Thomson direct out of Manchester.
We rented a house through homeaway.co.uk, had a free pick of fresh oranges, avocados, clementines and almonds from the attached small-holding
2wd car hire was with Cicar which is fully comprehensive

Would like to thank Octavio, Jennifer and Martin for their company during the week.

Anyone wanting to visit La Palma for the caving, hiking or both - I recommend it.
Lots of lava tubes still to be found and loads of trails through the pine forests and raw geology.

Get in touch with Octavio via the local cave club facebook page above.
Octavio has a 4wd, can guide you to some caves and arrange permissions - he is currently out of work at the moment so suggest you come to an arrangement with him for the guiding. His 4wd will save you the cost of hiring your own 4wd and hs is very knowledgeable about the caves and their formation which greatly enhanced  our appreciation.

We intend to visit again.

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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2015, 09:03:56 am »
Thinking that a few photos might help anyone trying to imagine stuff in Kdxn's informative and comprehensive reply, here goes with some of my photos - hopefully he has better ones.

"Tigalate A, example of Phase IV ceramic bowl insitu - these bowls were used to collect clean water. 4wd needed to get near the entrance"


Fully agree about 4x4 to get on the approach road; Menacer said I should man up and it would be OK in our little shopping hire car. She won. But the grinding noises suggested it might not have been OK.

"Hondo Miranda - some nice examples of benches and lava flows"

Very nice benching/flow lines

"Hondo Bejenado"



Reptilian skeleton

"Cardos"

A squeeze in Cardos (not *the* squeeze)

Beyond the narrow bits

"Susi"

« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 09:17:56 am by Cap'n Chris »

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Re: Lava palava in la Palma
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2015, 09:20:36 am »
Wow - very impressive.  They look much more interesting than my previous mental image of lava tubes.  Thanks for the posts  :thumbsup: