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3D Printed Formation Repair
« on: November 02, 2017, 12:04:32 pm »
Can anybody think of a formation that has broken that could be repaired with 3D printing?

I've recently started working for a large 3D printing company, and it's opened my eyes to the quality and range of things that are possible with the technology. It goes well beyond the common desktop Fused Deposition Modelling printers that have caught the public eye in recent years.

The damaged location could be 3D scanned, a model generated to match perfectly, and the surface could be designed to allow the rapid take-up of a calcite skin - at the advanced end of the technological scale.

I bet there's an ethical debate in here somewhere that the forum could have, but I'm more interested in the opportunities for conservation/replication from my personal point of view.

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 01:07:48 pm »
Very, very interesting, on all sort of levels. Can't think of anywhere off the top of my head (pun intended), but will keep watching the thread.

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2017, 02:59:25 pm »
Didn't Hunters Lodge Inn Sink get f'ed up about a year ago.. is it worth contacting the people who pieced together the repair to try and find out if there was any bits unrepairable that this kind of process could help with..

Here's the original thread:
https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=20046.0

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 08:30:19 pm »
Everything in Peak Cavern, Stoney Middleton, Lathkill. Everything that ever had miners in it or was explored in Victorian times.

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 08:55:07 pm »
Why stop there? South Passage in GG, for example, is more or less devoid of formations. With a bit of creativity one could fill it with stal.  ;D

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2017, 09:35:21 pm »
Everything in Peak Cavern, Stoney Middleton, Lathkill. Everything that ever had miners in it or was explored in Victorian times.

Thank you WW, your dedication towards conservation astounds even I.
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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2017, 09:44:30 pm »
Thank you to the two people who have PM'ed me with interesting enquiries :).

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2017, 10:13:35 pm »
Are you going to start the "ethical" debate thread or shall I?  ;)

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2017, 10:27:52 pm »
 :unsure:
Are you going to start the "ethical" debate thread or shall I?  ;)

You go for it. Then I can be sure to ignore it.

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2017, 11:56:40 pm »
Don't fail the probation   :thumbsup:

If the pieces are there then reattaching is possibly preferable.  If they aren't colour match would be a task.

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2017, 02:05:16 pm »
:unsure:
Are you going to start the "ethical" debate thread or shall I?  ;)

You go for it. Then I can be sure to ignore it.

Ok
https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=22699.msg286473#new

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2017, 08:23:08 pm »
You couldn't replicate most formations unless they were scanned before they were broken...

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 08:31:44 pm »
To make an *exact* replica? Yeah, sure.

To make something that looks exactly in place? No, just the base where the replacement will mount. I suspect most cavers will be able to produce a close approximation.
Permission? Wassat den?

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 09:00:28 pm »
True, but formations will reform by themselves if flow is still similar.

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Re: 3D Printed Formation Repair
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2017, 05:15:30 am »
Time can be a factor, I've heard of South Island NZ where you can trash loads of big straws ect then three years later you can't tell the difference, in other places it might take millenia to get formations back the way they were if at all.

If photographs are available results will be better - more accurate.    This coud be a massive step forward in conservation.
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