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Offline blhall195

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CHECC venue in wales?
« on: May 15, 2018, 09:50:45 am »
Does anyone know of a venue that may be able to host CHECC (late november) this year?

Ideally, our requirements are to have:

A large venue: ~200-250 people (So lots of camping space or something).
Catering facilities we can use ourselves (commercial kitchen).
A large hall/indoor space to hold the AGM/Disco.
Not too close to residential areas that could complain about noise.

It would be good if it was within driving distance of some caves, but we could probably stretch this to a long drive 1-2 hours if it helps open up the option for better venues.

We've tried the summit centre and ruled that out as it is too small and they won't allow camping on site.

We also considered the SWCC as CHECC has been hosted there before however, it's not ideal as we think we'd struggle with kitchen space and space in general.   

Thanks,

Brendan (CHECC Treasurer)

« Last Edit: May 15, 2018, 10:03:42 am by blhall195 »

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 10:02:57 am »
A Peak District venue would also be amazing, but we're quite low on options there as the Rotary Centre still won't have us back.

Please rack your brains everyone, as otherwise we'll be back to Fernhill Farm (Mendips) after only one year off. It's a nice enough venue but we need some variety!

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 10:10:38 am »
How about Cornwall.  Plenty of caves and camping.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2018, 10:12:18 am »
I take it the Gilwern Center would not have us back? Might be worth giving them a ring and asking - promising we wont break a washing machine this time.... Or a fridge..... Or set off the fire alarms..... Or have a naked Bratch running around......

On second thoughts, it might be unlikely!


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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2018, 10:18:27 am »
I take it the Gilwern Center would not have us back? Might be worth giving them a ring and asking - promising we wont break a washing machine this time.... Or a fridge..... Or set off the fire alarms..... Or have a naked Bratch running around......

On second thoughts, it might be unlikely!

I think they're done with us.  :bounce:
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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2018, 10:39:18 am »
I take it the Gilwern Center would not have us back? Might be worth giving them a ring and asking - promising we wont break a washing machine this time.... Or a fridge..... Or set off the fire alarms..... Or have a naked Bratch running around......

On second thoughts, it might be unlikely!
Yeah I bet everybody is going to welcome you with open arms after posting that...

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2018, 11:14:04 am »
That is the major problem with trying to find a venue, that many won't have us back after having us before. It's quite self destructive behaviour really, as now we're running out of places to go (though of course it's not the only factor, rising attendance for one has made it more difficult)

We just have to note that for three years now we have shown that we can treat a venue responsibly, giving us a couple of venues that are happy to have us back. Three years is quite a long time in student terms, meaning that we're now a completely different committee, and more importantly, an almost completely different bunch of people

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2018, 11:21:42 am »
I believe the biggest attendance year was 2008 ~ 315 people, and it was also our first year at the Rotary Centre who were more than happy to have us back.

In fact most venues were always happy to have us back apart from a few years ago when things obviously got a little more destructive - its good to have 3 years of good reputation. Would any of the venues that currently welcome you help you secure another venue with a written supportive statement?

Would Hope Valley College have you in the Peaks?

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2018, 11:55:51 am »
Also, if you're looking for a venue in the peaks, please look back at last years topic, started by Brendan. There were one or two thoughts there, and they were reasonably well thought through.

https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=22210.msg281091#msg281091

South Wales isn't my area, so I will leave local knowledge to them.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2018, 11:00:13 pm »
That is the major problem with trying to find a venue, that many won't have us back after having us before. It's quite self destructive behaviour really, as now we're running out of places to go (though of course it's not the only factor, rising attendance for one has made it more difficult)

We just have to note that for three years now we have shown that we can treat a venue responsibly, giving us a couple of venues that are happy to have us back. Three years is quite a long time in student terms, meaning that we're now a completely different committee, and more importantly, an almost completely different bunch of people

Didn’t one of your guys try to climb the soil stack at Penwyllt last year? Getting high enough to rip it off the wall and then fall and smash his head on the picnic table, which then required a trip to the nearest hospital?

Also, on one of the underground demonstrations, I noticed one of your guys lift  up a large rock and start hitting away at a small stall boss near he entrance of OFD 2. After a few short, sharp words, he stppped and walked off.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2018, 12:08:11 am »
These are isolated incidents caused by one or two people, I know the soil stack thing happened as I was there when it was being fixed... (in the weeks after)
 I don't know about some of the others, so wont comment.

But it's very hard to spot and stop the damage (both to reputation and property) as it happens. Recently, closer to home (not CHECC related) I caught someone drawing on Furniture with pen, quickly nipped this in the bud by saying they would be out on the street if they continued. I hate being harsh, but sometimes a short sharp shock is what's needed.

 Irrespective of what individual delegates get upto, the group of CHECC "guys" are very good at training up the next generation. Many who attended all of the events this year would agree on that, It has been a great year. Long may it continue.

Clearly the lesson is, if it happens, own up quickly and offer to help repair it.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2018, 08:26:14 am »
The university of the location you are thinking of should house you, after all they made you and should take some responsibility for your behaviour 😂😂

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2018, 01:08:08 pm »

Didn’t one of your guys try to climb the soil stack at Penwyllt last year? Getting high enough to rip it off the wall and then fall and smash his head on the picnic table, which then required a trip to the nearest hospital?

That was not a student I believe...

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2018, 07:49:47 pm »

Didn’t one of your guys try to climb the soil stack at Penwyllt last year? Getting high enough to rip it off the wall and then fall and smash his head on the picnic table, which then required a trip to the nearest hospital?

That was not a student I believe...



I was at Penwyllt the day after the event and all talk was of the student who had fallen.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2018, 08:00:56 pm »
I was at Penwyllt the day after the event and all talk was of the student who had fallen.

I was the sober person who drove down the hill to meet the ambulance while another person held his head steady (when the ambulance arrived, the paramedics cleared his spine and he went into hospital walking I believe). Names omitted to protect the guilty :p (and also because I've forgotten who it actually was)

Not saying that students don't get into trouble occasionally, but so do other cavers...

It amused me somewhat that there was a cave rescue callout while SCHECC was going on (late out) but it wasn't the students - it was a 'proper' caving club in Aggy, and SCHECC older people got drafted in to drive to Whitewalls (albeit only getting about 15 minutes down the road before getting the 'stand doesn't)!

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2018, 03:11:02 pm »
As one of the people holding the head of the person involved, no they were not a student, and haven't been for quite some time.

I do wonder why CHECC would ask for logistical help on UKC if it results in a list of incidents, most of which were dealt with appropriately, that are easily 'googleable' to a prospective venue.

This is a different group to old bunch of degenerates I am so firmly a member of.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2018, 07:33:00 am »
Maybe two smaller events would be easier homed?

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2018, 09:48:49 am »
Maybe two smaller events would be easier homed?

Checc already has two smaller events, reasonably easily homed. But the big one is about bringing people together init.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2018, 01:02:15 pm »
Or not if a venue can't be found?


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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2018, 01:22:34 pm »
Or not if a venue can't be found?

That's the spirit! Call the whole thing off guys...

It would be an awful shame to lose the important role the CHECC events (the main one obviously included) play in getting young people underground safely and effectively.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2018, 02:33:33 pm »
Perhaps the army could provide a suitably sized and robust venue at Sennybridge...? 

(Only half in jest.  There are several cavers in the south Wales area who work there, and who might be able to say whether this idea has any legs.)

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2018, 09:59:59 pm »


Perhaps the army could provide a suitably sized and robust venue at Sennybridge...? 

(Only half in jest.  There are several cavers in the south Wales area who work there, and who might be able to say whether this idea has any legs.)

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No.

Last thing we need on that camp is a load of millenials wandering around camp after 2 cans of cider pissing everywhere.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2018, 09:19:02 am »


Perhaps the army could provide a suitably sized and robust venue at Sennybridge...? 

(Only half in jest.  There are several cavers in the south Wales area who work there, and who might be able to say whether this idea has any legs.)

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No.

Last thing we need on that camp is a load of millenials wandering around camp after 2 cans of cider pissing everywhere.

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Good job it's millennials running the event and gen Z on the cider then.

This year's caving freshers were born this side of the millennium watershed... Gen Z don't drink like previous generations as they can't afford it and see it as a waste of time and good health thrown away by previous generations.

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Re: CHECC venue in wales?
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2018, 09:21:03 am »
I'm only jealous I can't drink cider

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