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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2021, 12:25:45 am »
Nice work Sam. If anywhere needs resin bolts it's CR. Expansion bolts in slate seem to be iffy sometimes. I remember about 75 % of the expansion bolts in CR being wobbly and some of them could be pulled out by hand. Is it the force cone cracking the rock? But a lot of the climbers' bolts in slate above ground seem to be OK so maybe it depends on the grain or something.
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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2021, 01:31:29 am »
Replaced all the bolts on the climb with glue ins. If you’re going to do a job, do it properly. Also replaced the rope on the ab into the canoe, the old one was super fat!

Thank Christ. I inched down that rope two years ago. Had to push the rope into the descender to make it go through.
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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2021, 09:58:57 pm »
... a lot of the climbers' bolts in slate above ground seem to be OK so maybe it depends on the grain or something..
But a lot of popular loweroffs at Dinorwig suffer wobbly bolts and are being replaced by modern glue ins for that reason.

I think it's the heavy traffic.
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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2021, 03:56:30 pm »
New rope has been cut, found today from Rhosydd side by someone else. I think the only option now is to bolt the wall as a bolt climb type thing

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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2021, 04:48:47 pm »
Another option is just to leave the place alone for the next month or so. I admire and appreciate the years of dedication and generosity of the guys who maintain it at their own expense. It seems that someone does not like folks using the CRRT right now. Making the exit bombproof just invites attacks elsewhere in that system, or in those valleys.

Perhaps a precautionary sign at the entrance in case anyone goes in and is not aware of extra need to be careful?

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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2021, 05:07:14 pm »
Is there first rope still there? Seems odd the last one keeps getting cut as it's it a bit harder to find.

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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2021, 05:44:06 pm »
I've only done the through trip once, but recall us bumping into a fairly inexperienced party along the way, that day, who at points needed our help. Sounds more like someone hoping for the same and the fallout of a rescue that follows. Also sounds like somebody who doesn't want to get caught, hence the minimal interference.

Considering how quickly the saboteur responded to the repair they're probably following things here etc etc..   
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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2021, 08:16:49 pm »
 Please could a moderator delete or edit to nothing (I'm no longer able to edit myself) my post directly above. Thank you


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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2021, 09:21:13 pm »
I would hazard a guess that here is precisely where they found out.

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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2021, 09:28:54 pm »
Do we really think somebody is deliberately cutting ropes? That's a very serious matter if we do.

Are we 100% sure it's not incompetence / poor rigging? From my memory of the pitches at the Croesor end, there are multiple sharp edges on the rock, and it is very hard to avoid catching the rope on them. Somebody with little experience (i.e. the typical visitor) will just shoot down without a care in the world...

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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2021, 09:57:28 pm »
Do we really think somebody is deliberately cutting ropes? That's a very serious matter if we do.

Are we 100% sure it's not incompetence / poor rigging? From my memory of the pitches at the Croesor end, there are multiple sharp edges on the rock, and it is very hard to avoid catching the rope on them. Somebody with little experience (i.e. the typical visitor) will just shoot down without a care in the world...

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Surely if someone cut it whilst abbing of it it we'd have heard of an injury? I don't know the pitch in question, so got no idea
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Re: Croesor Rhosydd
« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2021, 10:17:17 pm »
I think they found out on Facebook unfortunately.
I’d like to think my rigging is good! It seems after further discussion with the person who found it today, that the new rope I put in has just been pulled up. I’m heading back up that way tomorrow (again :wall:) I will secure the rope at the bottom of the pitch to prevent it being pulled up again.
Also I’ll put some bolts in so the wall can be climbed and protected so if the rope goes again, at least one member of a party can climb up and rig a rope.

The ropes on the croesor side mostly have rope protectors on the rock now, but a couple could do with replacing. A job for someone else! I’ve spent far too much time sorting this out already!!

 

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