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Human Remains in OFD
« on: November 16, 2006, 09:41:16 am »
In one of the rooms at the SWCC cottage at Penwyllt there is a photo of a human skeleton.
As I understand it it was found in 1946 when OFD1 was first entered (in modern times)

Can anyone shed any light on it:
How old is it?
Is it still there or was it removed for reburial?
Was it found in 'Skeleton Chamber'?
If so this isn't too far from the resurgence - did someone manage to get in through there perhaps before the current boulder choke in the sump formed?

No particular reason for asking other than idle (morbid!) curiosity...

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2006, 10:02:38 am »
I'll check out the references later, if I have the right ones here, but I am reasonably certain that there is no firm (14C) date for these remains, although I think there was some archaeology. IIRC I think the presumption was that the person probably entered via Pant Canol.
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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2006, 12:21:00 pm »
I've got something somewhere on them too.  I'll see if I can find the info.

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2006, 02:52:14 pm »
Oh I hate this! Someone starts a thread and unremembered bits of nonsense come screaming back into the memory from oh so long ago!

From my fading recall, the original OFD explorers were surprised to find the skeleton, but, it did link in with an old Swansea Valley folk tale about an itinerent chicken castrator and flute player (although it could have been some form of whistle). One day, the chicken castrator says "I'm going to play my flute inside that hill", and he did, and was never seen again. Or at least not untill they entered OFD...

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 07:47:10 pm »
This is interesting, any updates???
Does anyone know anything about the miners leg that is somewhere in Cwmorthin?  :o  :yucky:

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 10:06:07 pm »
Oh I hate this! Someone starts a thread and unremembered bits of nonsense come screaming back into the memory from oh so long ago!

From my fading recall, the original OFD explorers were surprised to find the skeleton, but, it did link in with an old Swansea Valley folk tale about an itinerent chicken castrator and flute player (although it could have been some form of whistle). One day, the chicken castrator says "I'm going to play my flute inside that hill", and he did, and was never seen again. Or at least not untill they entered OFD...

I'll get me coat...

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Very good.
Thanks for the responses so far, this is definitely an interesting subject.
Look forwards to any further information.

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 10:40:45 pm »
This is interesting, any updates???
Does anyone know anything about the miners leg that is somewhere in Cwmorthin?  :o  :yucky:

ask Miles Moulding, he's the welsh mine expert his website:

http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/default.asp

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2006, 09:46:51 am »
There are definitely a few odd limbs lying around in Oakeley (Gloddfa Ganol)!!! :thumbsup:

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2006, 12:13:08 pm »
I heard that the skeleton found was Smith.  Hence the Smithy, Smith's Armoury.

Mind you Torchwood makes me think that there are scarier things in OFD now.......

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2006, 12:48:45 pm »
There are definitely a few odd limbs lying around in Oakeley (Gloddfa Ganol)!!! :thumbsup:

All the miner's remains I found down there were of questionable sexuality....  :lol: :lol:

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2006, 12:52:38 pm »
It was obviously a good place to get legless in times gone by!

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2006, 05:14:03 pm »
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All the miner's remains I found down there were of questionable sexuality...

But most are armless enough! ;D

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2006, 06:12:37 pm »

Hatstand good to see you're back, where you been.  ;)
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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2006, 01:47:21 pm »
Should we combine this thread with the one about filming Torchwood at Penwyllt?  :-\
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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2006, 10:43:23 pm »
Anyone see 'meet the ancestors' last night (Thursday)? A couple of cave divers entered a new area of a 'secret' cave somewhere in Yorkshire and discovered human skeletons, Dated about 3,500 years old!  :bow:

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2006, 07:50:26 am »

Hatstand good to see you're back, where you been.  ;)

not strictly sure but there were beans, lots of beans....  ::)

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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2006, 11:12:42 pm »
Not in Aisle 2 anyway, that's the place where we saw the Ragu!
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Re: Human Remains in OFD
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2006, 07:21:14 am »
Not in Aisle 2 anyway, that's the place where we saw the Ragu!

But there's so much Ragu!