BMC changes its name to Climb Britain
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NewStuff
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Carbide1 said:Another respected organisation racing to the bottom.
You're a stuffy old lot in here. It's a *name change*. It may not have the pomp and circumstance perceived by some of you as appropriate for the body, but you are not where the market is heading. It's younger people, significantly younger, that will ensure the body continues to survive, and they need to be relevant to even think about retaining members and push the interests of it's members.
Just as the BCA is doing now, despite the odd scream of old people that refuse to play nicely.
Over the Hill
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BMC lost its way some time ago and still the best value all around for International "CLIMB" trips is to join the OEAV or as known in UK as the Austrian Alpine Club. Cheaper and some good insurance thrown in (personal choice to check if it covers all you want it too as it has limits but caving is included) . Also gets me discounts staying in huts where a BMC card does not.
Simon Wilson
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NewStuff said:Carbide1 said:Another respected organisation racing to the bottom.
You're a stuffy old lot in here. It's a *name change*. It may not have the pomp and circumstance perceived by some of you as appropriate for the body, but you are not where the market is heading. It's younger people, significantly younger, that will ensure the body continues to survive, and they need to be relevant to even think about retaining members and push the interests of it's members.
Just as the BCA is doing now, despite the odd scream of old people that refuse to play nicely.
That's what I was thinking too but I didn't dare say so. Unfortunately a lot of effort seems to have had to be wasted by Climb Britain in having to explain the change.
andrewmcleod
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Over the Hill said:
Be careful with the limits on AAC insurance though - you may just about be OK in Europe but the cover is definitely not enough for some places. BMC insurance is provided by a (recently changed) broker and is expensive but comprehensive with much higher limits.
Over the Hill
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Yes agreed OEAV has "Insurance Limits" as does every Insurance Policy including the BMC but I thought I had made that point ?
It's up to the individual to read the small print as Insurance Companies exist for one purpose only, you won't need 2 guesses for that.
It's up to the individual to read the small print as Insurance Companies exist for one purpose only, you won't need 2 guesses for that.
andrewmcleod
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Over the Hill said:
The misunderstanding is probably my fault! I should have said 'cost limits' (e.g. rescue costs limit for AAC is ?25,000, for BMC is ?100,000) or something whereas I think your post was more referring to activity type limits (i.e. caving included).
Over the Hill
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No issues there Andrew but the biggest factor for me is that the OEAV (AAC UK) throw in the insurance for free with the membership fee and that is not that much in the grand scheme of things. With the BMC (as was) its was a always add on.
That said I have carried both memberships in the past having worked out that a fall off a big mountain in Alaska a few year ago would have been outside the scope of the AAC cover. And for those that want a real bargain head South to New Zealand and fall off big style with no insurance as its like the UK currently with no charges for a heli rescue (proved that one in January, ouch).
That said I have carried both memberships in the past having worked out that a fall off a big mountain in Alaska a few year ago would have been outside the scope of the AAC cover. And for those that want a real bargain head South to New Zealand and fall off big style with no insurance as its like the UK currently with no charges for a heli rescue (proved that one in January, ouch).
andrewmcleod
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bograt said:
It's actually indoor lead climbing (which they confusingly refer to as 'sport climbing' despite that more normally being the same activity outside) but I don't think so because:
a) it was Sport England (grassroots) not UK Sport (elite sport)
b) all this started at least 9 months ago, long before the recent anouncement.
Clive G
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If caving is going to go along with 'the scene', then in spite of the fact there's a book out there with the same name (by the inventor of Descent), given you want to include caving, potholing and mines exploration, it would have to be something like:
But - thanks to Richard Bartrop - 20 years ago (in 1996) we discovered Hidden Earth, so we're actually leading rather than behind the times with 'smart names'!
Underground Britain
But - thanks to Richard Bartrop - 20 years ago (in 1996) we discovered Hidden Earth, so we're actually leading rather than behind the times with 'smart names'!
cavemanmike
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underground, overground wombling free
glyders
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They certainly did not!mch said:
I too initially reacted that it was due to the Olympic hopes for indoor climbing and bouldering. I have seen the same happen to canoeing and cycling, with some quite bad effects on those who jut want to take up the activity but have no intention to become 'athletes'.
