At the moment, this seems to be her main hope.Benfool said:Pretty sure the FFS (French version of the BCA) cover caving expeditions for non French people. Might be worth checking out their website.
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Benfool said:Pretty sure the FFS (French version of the BCA) cover caving expeditions for non French people. Might be worth checking out their website.
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Cheers Joel!Joel Corrigan said:Duncan, send me a DM if you like & I'll give you the contact details of my friend who works for ADAC so you can avoid the tricky German words on their website!
Nick's link emailed back saying UK residents only.badger said:concerning Dogtag, and mulu 2014,
1, yes we had to speak to the MD to get cover
2, as far as I can remember it only covered UK members only and think there was also an issue with members over 65.
so unfortunately for Duncan no use for you. would say best bets are nick Williams link as he has excellent knowledge re insurance and or Joel link
badger
Duncan S said:The German motoring group?Rob said:I use ADAC, very reasonable and supported internally by a caver....
Have you get a link to their insurance page that might be relevant please.
I struggled to find a sensible way off the home page.
Thanks for that!Rob said:Duncan S said:The German motoring group?Rob said:I use ADAC, very reasonable and supported internally by a caver....
Have you get a link to their insurance page that might be relevant please.
I struggled to find a sensible way off the home page.
Detailed post by Georg from ADAC here:
http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=13278.msg171306#msg171306
Duncan S said:Dogtag still have no Personal Accident or Personal Liability cover for exploratory caving.
I'm struggling to find anything that might meaningfully cover rescue costs in everything that is left in the policy.
Duncan S said:OK - I hear you...
But how much does it take to wake a helicopter pilot out of his bed and carry you off the mountain.
Anything sub-10k isn't going to cut the mustard.
All the other categories in Dogtag have low limits of liability, so who is going to pay the bills?
Google for some horror stories about emergency teams camped at the cave entrance for a week or more, and it is evident the costs 'could' run into millions.
Dogtag isn't alone here. Most policies offer inadequate expedition rescue cover (FFS, ADAC, etc).
I have been told in rescue situations policies have paid, so using them is OK. But is it really?
I'd rather see it in black and white when taking out the policy.
I went with Snowcard because Summer 2016 they were the only available policy that hinted they might give me adequate cover for expedition rescue.
Pays yer money, etc, etc
Isn't cave rescue in Spain free? Was going to go with Nicks link for some insurance next week in Cantabria but with a low limit and high excess as I am only doing two fairly straight forward trips. If rescue is free and health care is covered by the ehic then I'm only really covering getting back to the uk (I think?)Mark Wright said:As I said, rescue cover is a must. I've had two experiences of requiring the rescue services during a caving expedition.
The first was in Matienzo when Alan Box died in 1994. The rescue services wouldn't even enter the cave until they saw a copy of Alan's rescue insurance policy.
The second was in Mulu in 1996 when we had to pay for the helicopter by credit card to get Nick Jones out of the camp in the Hidden Valley. Because the helicopter company didn't have a copy of our insurance policy it had to be paid for before the helicopter took off and claimed back when we all got home.
The rescue in Peru is a good example of one that could run into millions.
Mark