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Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« on: April 17, 2021, 08:21:38 pm »
Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)

Appears to cover everything except Flatulence.


Reprinted with kind permission from NSS News, April 2021,

Val Hildreth-Werker and Jim C. Werker (Reoised Feb 2027)

These guidelines encourage practices
that minimize negative inpacts to caves. As
more is learned about cave environments,
cavers evaluate and redefine caving conduct.
Compiled from the experiences and contri-
butions of many cavers, these guidelines
describe safe, low-impact caving techniques.
Avoid damaging cave resources-aesthetic,
cultural, paleontological, geological, hydro-
logical, mineralogical, meteorological,
biological, as well as microbial. Move gently
and be good stewards. Think safety-take
care of yourself and your team. Take care
of the caves!
. Each caver wears a helmet with a light
attached. Each caver carries water,
food, a bottle for urine, and three
sources of light with extra batteries.
. Use freshly washed cave packs,
vertical gear, boots, gloves, knee-pads,
helmets, and lint-free clothing to avoid
transfer of mud, dust, and microbes
between cave environments.
. Follow current. WNS decon proto-
cols at https://caves.orglWNS/ or
https: / /www.whitenosesyndrome. org
. Use footwear with nonmarring/
non-marking soles.
o Use soft or padded cave packs. Avoid
hard-edged boxes. Choose gear that
is smaller, lighter, and more compact.
. Protect cave location data. Never
post or publish coordinates or instruc-
tions for finding cave entrances.
Intentional vandalism and uninten-
tional ignorance destroy many cave
resources. Unauthorized sharing of
cave locations can be a prosecutable
federal or state offense.
. Never disturb bats or other cave-
dwelling creatures. Watch {or insects
and avoid crushing them underfoot.
. Avoid touching microbialmats. Do
not disturb geomicrobial communities
living in a cave.
. No smoking or use of tobacco in
caves. No campfires in caves or near
cave entrances. Smoke and fumes can
kill bats, invertebrates, and other cave-
dwelling animals.
. No recreational drugs or alcohol
while caving. Mental and physical
impairment puts the cave and the
team at risk.
' Wear gloves. Check gloves for mud,
dirt, and holes.
o Don't enter pristine areas with muddy
or dusty garments and gear. Know
which areas require clean clothes,
shoes, and gear.

Avoid isolated pools.
Limit scratching skin and hair. Tens of
thousands of skin fragments and debris
fall from each human body every hour.
Reduce introductions of new matter
into cave systems.
Remove all solid and liquid wastes.
Carry an emergency pee bottle and
burrito kit. Carry out all urine, feces,
spit, vomit, and other waste.
Avoid dropping crumbs and food
particles. Eat over a plastic bag.
Carry out crumbs and debris. Don't
eat on the move.
If you light a candle, catch the wax
drips on a suitable base such as heavy
foil.
If carbide is allowed, carry the spent
carbide out of the cave in sturdy plastic
bottles with threaded lids.
Stay on established trails. Sit inside
the trails. Keep packs and other items
within the path. Don't stray off the
most impacted pathways.
Move carefully and gently through the
entire cave-avoid kicking up dust.
Spot each other on climbs. Safety
first-maintain three points of contact.
Always spot each other in fragile
areas. Especially watch heads, backs,
hands, feet, and packs. In areas of
low hanging formations, ask spotters
to watch. Remove helmet to improve
body control. Move gently.
Maintain special care and gentle
control of movements when lingering
in a fragile area for survey, science, or
photography.
Touch as little as possible. Avoid
leaning on walls, ceilings, or speleo-
thems. Don't sit on formations. Look
and avoid trampling floor deposits.

When movement requires handholds,
look first to avoid delicate features
and use small points of contact for
balance (knuckles or fingertips) rather
than dirty open palms.
During survey and exploration, estab-
lish pathways on durable surfaces to
minimize future impacts.
Point out unsafe or damaging
behaviour. It's every caver's responsi-
bility to ensure that cave environments
remain as pristine as possible and that
every team member is safe and aware
of conservation ethics. It's okay to
speak up and say, "Keep still, don't
move, or stay away."
Take nothing from-caves. Removal
of natural or historical items is unethical
and illegal unless you have a collec-
tion permit for authorized research.
(Recently deposited trash usually
should be removed-always carry
extra plastic bags, and employ safety
precautions. First check with cave
managers, archaeologists, biologists,
and historians before making decisions
about large items or cultural materials.)
leave nothing in caves. Never leave
your mark on cave walls. No graffiti. No
signatures or drawings. No trash. No
waste. Leave no evidence of your visit.
Cave safely ... Cave softly ... and
leave no trace.

Permission is granted to share, repost,
reprint, or use these bullet points to build
protocols for specific caves or cave regions.
Access updated guidelines on Conservation
Division pages of the NSS Website at
https : / / caves. org/conservation /cavingcode.
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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2021, 10:50:24 pm »
For those reading, note the NSS is American. Their rules (see locations of entrances specifically) can be particularly anal and not all of this is applicable to caving in the UK

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2021, 11:02:19 pm »
Quote
NSS is American

What guns should be carried in the caves?  Reliable revolver or the higher capacity of an automatic?

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2021, 11:07:18 pm »
I think it seems more anal when written down, but generally I think we do tend to follow most of that advice most of the time. Though I've never taken along a bottle for urine, I must admit. As long as I stick to Castleton it should be fine.

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2021, 10:51:33 am »
Aye, I think we do undertake most of them. But sometimes with these long lists of commandments I wonder whether we risk "sign blindness" - the more rules, the less each individual one is read

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2021, 12:57:49 pm »
Am going to sound a novice / idiot why would you carry a bottle of urine ? I thought that was to help jelly fish stings ?  :lol:

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2021, 01:11:06 pm »
Am going to sound a novice / idiot why would you carry a bottle of urine ? I thought that was to help jelly fish stings ?  :lol:

It's a bottle FOR urine, so you can pee in it instead of peeing in the cave  ;D

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2021, 01:14:26 pm »
That makes more sense now  :lol:

Thanks for taking time to answer my stupid question !

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2021, 01:21:54 pm »
That makes more sense now  :lol:

Thanks for taking time to answer my stupid question !

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:  :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

Made my day that, cheers Tom.

The only "stupid question" is the one that you DON'T ask.
Especially if it stops you carrying a bottle of p1$$ around all day!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ah, well, now, you see...erm...

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2021, 01:25:30 pm »
Ya never no  :shrug:

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2021, 01:31:00 pm »
Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
Carry an emergency pee bottle and
burrito kit. Carry out all urine, feces,
spit, vomit, and other waste.

Is a burrito kit what I think it may be?
Also what 'other waste' can a body produce?  :-\ :-[

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2021, 03:34:20 pm »
I suspect it may be either 'this or that' - there's not many wastes left! Maybe they mean ladies' sanitary products, but are too coy to say. Though if you're able to carry vomit out of a cave system I'm sure you can handle mentioning 'tampon' on a sign. I'd love to see that, BTW.

Incidentally, a plant-sprayer full of piss is very handy for keeping grazing animals out of vegetable plots, especially if you had steak for dinner the night before. Just spray it all around the perimeter - it's amazing how far one bottle will go, and it really works. Not much use in my current abode, but it's a useful tip for gardeners in the country. I have no idea whether cabbage-flavoured piss works on cats though.

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2021, 04:01:44 pm »
Or maybe they are referring to jubber ronnies as used by the more amorous caver ?

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2021, 04:40:13 pm »
So do I take it that having a piss in your wet suit is no longer socially acceptable... :-[

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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2021, 06:28:22 pm »
Or maybe they are referring to jubber ronnies as used by the more amorous caver ?

I found one in Windy Knoll two years ago and it was well beyond the daylight zone, and almost in the dig zone! I guess if they couldn't bother taking a used johnny out, they were never gonna take some drag trays out :(

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2021, 06:29:49 pm »
So do I take it that having a piss in your wet suit is no longer socially acceptable... :-[

That's fine as you will ultimately end up taking it home with you ;)

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2021, 07:59:27 pm »
There is also blood, plasma & snot - Burrito bag is to take it away:
https://amp.reddit.com/r/caving/comments/46gn3l/question_for_female_cavers/

On the gun question: http://forums.caves.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7909

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2021, 08:36:11 pm »
And dandruff.

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2021, 08:40:15 pm »
Ironic that guns aren't one of the bullet points referred to.

Probably ok if you only shoot people, but absolutely no shooting of formations.

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2021, 09:25:18 pm »
Shame we're in Caving Chat and not Idle Chat, otherwise I'd point out that back in the 70s, if there was a stray dunky in the gutter, you'd get warned by your parents not to touch it 'or you'll get germs', without explaining why. This of course meant that you'd find a stick to flick it at your playmates. Lucky this really isn't Idle Chat, or I'd move on to white dog-dirt.

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Re: Ivtinimum-lmpact Caving Guidelines (How to Behave in a Cave)
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2021, 09:36:44 pm »
Guns were regularly used on formations up to 100 years ago

 

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