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Offline thesiger

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Change of ownership for ukCaving
« on: September 12, 2014, 03:11:30 pm »
Tim and Jane Allen are delighted to announce they are the new owners of ukCaving.com:
 
We love caves, caving and all that goes with the sport and have been caving, both home and abroad, for many years.
 
UK Caving is an integral part of the caving community and we hope our plans will improve both users and viewers’ experience of the forum.  We are open to new ideas, so please do get in touch with your suggestions.
 
We do not plan to act in haste and therefore ukCaving will remain unchanged for the time being.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2014, 04:50:02 pm »
Congratulations Tim and Jane

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2014, 05:13:35 pm »
Great news.  :beer2: 
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2014, 06:26:35 pm »
Excellent! Happy to post some ideas in due course. Meanwhile  :thumbsup:

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2014, 06:44:13 pm »
O ooo gooodo . More photos please  ;D   And let everyone cheer up a bit and not be so cynical.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2014, 06:52:54 pm »
Yes, congratulations, thanks to those who have kept it going until now and here's to a long and interesting future  :beer2:
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2014, 08:42:34 pm »
Echo the comments of TheBitterEnd and wish you the best for the future.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2014, 08:52:58 pm »
Good to see ownership being passed back to some active cavers, good luck to you both Tim & Jane  :thumbsup:  :beer2:
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2014, 09:11:11 pm »
Excellent and good luck, happy days  :) :) :)
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2014, 09:20:57 pm »
Good luck chaps  ;D

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2014, 10:25:29 pm »
Tim and Jane Allen are delighted to announce they are the new owners of ukCaving.com:
 
We love caves, caving and all that goes with the sport and have been caving, both home and abroad, for many years.
 
UK Caving is an integral part of the caving community and we hope our plans will improve both users and viewers’ experience of the forum.  We are open to new ideas, so please do get in touch with your suggestions.
 
We do not plan to act in haste and therefore ukCaving will remain unchanged for the time being.

Glad its continuing as a useful source of info. Would like to see more trip reports on here - I know for people who cave regularly and know all the caves it may be a bit boring, but for those of us not near to caves/slightly less frequent cavers it's really useful reading trip reports esp prior to tricky trips. Unsure what you could do to promote this - other outdoor forums offer a prize for the best report each month, but that would require a company donating a prize..

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2014, 10:28:34 pm »
UK Caving is an integral part of the caving community and we hope our plans will improve both users and viewers’ experience of the forum.
That will take some serious work...

Interesting development all the same.
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2014, 10:02:36 am »
UK Caving Forum is unusual in that it has no serious on line competitor. It does have competitors in related fields like mine exploration and Facebook subgroups but nothing like it in regard to general caving. ( that I know of ). Other hobbies have multiple forums that are quite competitive but only serve to dilute the whole. I believe that to be the same with Facebook. It has spawned so many of my hobby related groups that I am no longer able to keep up with them. Anyone can set up a Facebook subgroup and rule their own little fiefdom. Personally I see that area as a threat to general forums so to compete forums must remain fresh and up beat. You could say I am a fairly active user of UK Caving. Sometimes I wonder if my efforts are appreciated. Perhaps that is general with forums on which the majority of users remain silent. A simple "like" button at the bottom of a thread would help assuage the emptiness.
To my mind there is never enough photos here. We have had all of this before of course. I dont like links to hosting sites or low res attachments. If I am reading a thread I like to see the photo with the text. By using Photobucket images can be posted without using forum resources though the mobile phone viewers will moan. Like others I do feel some sort of encouragement would help. How easy it would be to run a forum photo competition.
Perhaps like other forums members could be asked for donations each year. That would help the owners with running costs though to be honest I am not aware of the financial support side of things. I donate £10 per year to my collectors forum via Paypal and am quite happy to do so. Structurally the forum is mostly fine. What is really needed is further encouragement for folks to share their caving experiences. Also like my Fairy Cave Quarry thread ( I wont mention Reservoir Hole - Darn I just did ) to make an historical record which gets picked up by Google and may ultimately encourage further members. Yup - Lots more digging reports too even if nothing exciting gets found.
Well thats a few personal views on things. I wish the new owners well in their efforts with the forum as ultimately it will benefit all cavers.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2014, 02:07:56 pm »
Congratulations. I look forward to a new era of peace and harmony in these forums, with acrimony and sniping banished forever - especially from threads discussing access to St Cuthbert's Swallet under the CRoW Act  ;) 

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2014, 04:28:00 pm »
I too like to see trip reports, techniques eg surveying etc and most of all news of progress/aims with digs. Hate the arguments which seems to be dominate things for a while.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2014, 04:46:56 pm »
Congratulations   :clap2: :clap2:    Here's to a deep and dark satisfying future  :beer2: :beer2:

As posted above, the petty arguments can get boring but i don't see that ending whilst we keep it open and allow people free thought. Id like to see more Trip reports and photos as already mentioned.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2014, 05:17:19 pm »
Thanks everyone for your congratulations, how encouraging.

Thanks also for the feedback - please do keep it coming, we are listening!

Jane Allen

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2014, 10:06:23 pm »
Congratulations.

I'd just like to echo theoldruminator's comment about a like button. I'd like to see this added to the forum as well.

Good luck with the site.
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2014, 10:23:56 pm »
Hi Fiona, good to see a Newbie posting.  Ruminator had lots of good ideas including a 'like' button - it's on the list!

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2014, 10:26:18 pm »
I like ORs thoughts, a way of liking a post may help encourage people to write more - IIRC SMF has a "Karma" system, but this can be positive as well as negative and thus be open to abuse, so not ideal.
Sometimes it's not possible (at least for me) to read a post and then spend more time replying, especially whilst viewing on a mobile. A simple like (or similar) system would allow the original poster to see that people read and like what they post, whereas now the only clue is number of views and any subsequent posts. It might encourage more 'reports' of trips/digs/insert other here.

Arguments will always exist whilst you have so many different age groups/generations/educations/general mind-sets. It is the way of the world and forums, you can't prevent it, to do so would be draconian and ultimately bring ruin to the forum.
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2014, 07:13:33 am »
I like ORs thoughts, a way of liking a post may help encourage people to write more - IIRC SMF has a "Karma" system, but this can be positive as well as negative and thus be open to abuse, so not ideal.

Some years ago the Karma system was in place here; many people liked it. It was, though, considered a bit silly so got removed after a few months, IIRC. I'd be happy to see it restored though, as it might be an easy way of gauging feedback to posts.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2014, 07:30:32 am »
Nice one Jane & Tim, I hope you don't piss about with the format too much, its fine as it is.

A collectors forum (might be the one Ruminator mentioned) changed the format recently and it just doesn't seem as user friendly anymore.

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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2014, 08:01:17 am »
I like ORs thoughts, a way of liking a post may help encourage people to write more - IIRC SMF has a "Karma" system, but this can be positive as well as negative and thus be open to abuse, so not ideal.

Some years ago the Karma system was in place here; many people liked it. It was, though, considered a bit silly so got removed after a few months, IIRC. I'd be happy to see it restored though, as it might be an easy way of gauging feedback to posts.

Yes, I remember that. I can't remember how it worked, but I remember that so many people didn't like it that they were using it in obviously silly ways, and it got so ridiculous that it got removed.

I was one of the ones who didn't like it (so I didn't use it at all), and I'd rather not have a "like" button either.
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Re: Change of ownership for ukCaving
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2014, 09:16:55 am »
A 'Like' button should be complimented with a 'Dislike' button.
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