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That picture is curious, the presence of bottles and Brians name on the wall shows it was taken before it was discovered by Brian, who as Cavemonkey says practically caught them in the act, not giving anyone else much time to discover and photograph it, apart from those that did it?

Todcaver, I don't know if anyone's been reported for false imprisonment, do we even know if anyone has been falsely imprisoned? If it did happen do we know who actually did it? You seem to know alot about it so maybe you can fill in the blanks for the rest of us.

I have no reason to disbelieve you found muddy hole blocked, so can accept that as fact, however, who blocked it would be pure conjecture, that's my point.

I have no reason to believe you don't own the watch Roy, however if you asked me to wire you some money in exchange for it I'd definitely want to see it first! How about if someone else told me you owned the watch, and I went around telling everyone "Roy fellows owns this rare watch" then you...

Hearsay is "information received from other people which cannot be substantiated; rumour."

A thing that is known or proven to be true.

Well I had quite an interesting conversation with an AWT volunteer yesterday,  regarding the situation at browns folly, during which they stated they do infact have part ownership of the underground space, certainly something I've not heard before. Roy, you say there's certain facts only a few...

It's all very well saying seal it for a generation, but some of us locals visit quite frequently, why should we lose something we enjoy and treasure, because a few tossers can't behave themselves?

Or El speleo sell theirs as a spare part. http://www.elwork-speleo.hr/cd/1110/l/EN/accessoires

They have these on eBay, http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sports-Gopro-Skydive-Helmet-Mount-Adapter-Thumb-Knob-With-Bolt-Nut-Billet-Alu-Black-/111241359380?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE&skus=Color:Black&varId=410256187174

Long shot, but I think I left my 3 led cree torch in an orange dry bag in this cave on Saturday the ninth of April, don't suppose anyone's found it have they?

I've emailed you some images Peter.

I messaged you, then realised you wanted me to email you! I've got a copy now, shiver me timbers!  :thumbsup:

Any online versions I can print out? We won't be taking a dvd player with us I'm afraid!

I'm visiting charterist cave on Saturday (if we can find it!) and was wondering if there was a survey available?

Are Wiltshire stone quarries accepted?

Is the guy in the top photo wearing chaps?!  :'(

I'd agree that it's a very reckless thing to do, not just because the heat can cause collapse, but depending on the ventilation, smoke inhalation and carbon monoxide could be a problem. It would also soot the Cave and it's features, and I doubt the bats would like it either.

I'd say it's a bat hibunculum judging by the door and the concrete work, probably not much to see. The fence is just to stop you getting close to the unstable cliff face. All the bricked up bits are natural rift features I think.

It was the open workings that were filled with rubble, Springfield was one of the largest, if not the largest open quarry in bath. I believe the door you are referring to would connect with some filled workings in the council depot on the other side of the road?