A simple PR exercise

[gus horsley]

Would that be Wheal Concord?

Peter, you obviously know the area. It wasn't Concord but one of a series of shafts in Wheal Briton and North Downs that were being prospected, mainly for wolfram. Concord opened up shortly after as an indirect result of these explorations but, as you probably know, turned out to be a dud. Maybe that's because the Prince of Wales opened it.

 

[Hughie]

Is it true that in Cornwall, old fridges are recycled, being converted into shaft depth testing devices?

I thought they used tourists for that.....

Well there may be some truth in what you say. In the early 1970's when I was a miner we opened up a shaft near Blackwater. Work stopped when a body was found wrapped up in a carpet. Never found out who she was, but, judging by the design, she'd been there a while.

Gus, slightly off topic I know. I had a cousin that was a tinner until he died in an accident in Wheal Jane. I was very young at the time but I'm sure it was in the early '70s. His name was Jeremy Bown - wondered if you knew him?

 

[Peter Burgess]

Who cares if its off topic. I started it, and I don't care. It's a nice old codgers wander down memory lane.

 

[gus horsley]

Gus, slightly off topic I know. I had a cousin that was a tinner until he died in an accident in Wheal Jane. I was very young at the time but I'm sure it was in the early '70s. His name was Jeremy Bown - wondered if you knew him?

There's a good chance it would have been in the early 70's since that was when there was the most activity in the area. I was at Mount Wellington, across the valley from Wheal Jane, but I don't recall the incident. We were quite accident-prone though, although I didn't get a drill accidently blasted into my head like somebody else I heard about at South Crofty.

Peter, old codgers is it? I bet there's a few of these young whippersnappers on the forum who are groaning with dismay. "Yet another boring old farts convention" I hear them say...blimey that rhymed.

 

[cap n chris]

Back to the topic...

Swildons seams clean and in my only two trips so far its very busy, well done to everyone who visits and doesnt drop sweety wrappers.

... it's not because people don't drop sweet wrappers - they DO - but there's a lot of cavers going there who pick them up again.

Talking of which, some COCK has scratched an arrow on the flowstone wall just downstream of the Old Grotto - I'll be getting a photo of it soon. It happened sometime between last Thursday and Saturday afternoon.

 

[gus horsley]

Talking of which, some COCK has scratched an arrow on the flowstone wall just downstream of the Old Grotto - I'll be getting a photo of it soon. It happened sometime between last Thursday and Saturday afternoon.

That's despicable. I know some caves have had quite a battering in the past (Victorian souvenir hunters, etc) but in this day and age you'd have though people would be more aware. Then again I can remember having to find a way to remove piss from Llygad Llwchwr after an outdoor centre had used it. I never knew how much it could reek in a confined environment until then.

 

[cap n chris]

Then again I can remember having to find a way to remove piss from Llygad Llwchwr after an outdoor centre had used it. I never knew how much it could reek in a confined environment until then.

Rancid urine can get bad enough to make you instantly gag-react/vomit. Please, if you ever catch anyone pissing in a dry cave (especially onto rock rather than mud) punch their lights out with my blessing.

 

[gus horsley]

Rancid urine can get bad enough to make you instantly gag-react/vomit. Please, if you ever catch anyone pissing in a dry cave (especially onto rock rather than mud) punch their lights out with my blessing.

I couldn't find the individual culprit(s) but the centre had been using the cave without permission from the water company that owned it and had left a weekly trail of crap which I fastidiously removed every Friday night (the night before the company made their inspections). The only recourse was to read the riot act to the centre, which I did. They took caving off their list of activities as a result. Didn't get the opportunity to punch anybody's lights out though, but it would have been very satisfying.

 

[wormster]

How does this sound??:

Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints, kill nothing but time.

I always seem to come out with more tat than when I went in, no matter if its caves, mines or mountains.

 

[graham]

How does this sound??:

Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints, kill nothing but time.

I always seem to come out with more tat than when I went in, no matter if its caves, mines or mountains.

Can you stop leaving those fecking footprints on my pristine mud floors ... 


(No offence to you, just trying to make a point.  )

 

[andymorgan]

Can you stop leaving those fecking footprints on my pristine mud floors ... 

My mother says something similar about muddy footprints on her pristine floor!

A good point though! The Belgian club Avalon have a good slide show about this which has been discussed before http://www.scavalon.be/avalonuk/protection/protection_diashow.htm

A good point Wormster too  :bow: about removing rubbish