Access controlling bodies and the BCA [Split from Re: Does your club rep...]

droid

Active member
Since I believe that CCC were the only ACB having such a policy, it always *was* a 'local issue'.
 

2xw

Active member
droid said:
Since I believe that CCC were the only ACB having such a policy, it always *was* a 'local issue'.

Your beliefs would be misinformed in this case. Several other ACBs did ban under 18s (some more officially than others), across several cavig areas, most of which have now changed this - you didn't hear about it because the world didn't collapse as a result.

The idea that there are good legal reasons to ban young people from going caving has national implications. I hope we've put that idea to bed.

This feeds into this wider debate on this thread and others about minimum standards of behaviour or a "standard framework" or whatever. News isn't confined to the local areas and neither are cavers, so it's entirely possible that "local" access issues might have implications elsewhere.
 

NewStuff

New member
rhychydwr1 said:
What is a sock account?

Missed this, sorry.

A sock account, is shorhand for sock puppet account, and is almost exclusively used when a poster uses multiple accounts to prtray greater support for their position. In the case of Chris Binding/Cap'n Chris, it's was "Smiley Alan" where he passed himself off as a user challenged by dyslexia or similar disability, until he was outed. A fair number of people are convinced that the "BradW" account is in fact someone already known to us on this forum.
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
NewStuff said:
In the case of Chris Binding/Cap'n Chris, it's was "Smiley Alan" where he passed himself off as a user challenged by dyslexia or similar disability, until he was outed.

Pretty much spot one, and it was a fair cop. It was great fun while it lasted and I thoroughly enjoyed myself and have zero regrets, sorry about that. ;-)

In my defence I would like to add that it's very difficult to have a consistent stance/opinion on this forum from a single account especially when wearing as many hats as I once used to (and mostly still do), namely: conservationist, sports caver, professional caver, landowner/ACB, regional council member (erstwhile secretary, conservation & access officer and training officer - over 10+ years), obsessive digger, BCA trainer/assessor, erstwhile moderator, ACI member, expedition caver, LAP Member, film-maker, BCA Training Committee member, BCA C&A Committee co-opted member, club caver (3-5 clubs depending on year), technical adviser, writer, top poster here (yay, still No.1!)  .... and non-compliant awkward free-thinking sod. There's more, but that's enough to get the gist.

The secondary account (ironically) facilitated a degree of lessened schizophrenia which enabled free-er input on controversial topics while also tipping a wink at a smiley person I unfortunately know called Alan, who features as a pathologically unsmiley curmudgeon (hence the coffee-choking hilarity of the name), but now people just have to work out which persona's perspective I'm writing from. C'est la vie. It's complicated, man.

We aspire to continue being legion and complex. Thank you NewStuff for the timely prompt/opportunity to blow my trumpet. Cheers.

Everyone will need to raise their game and keep up. Multiple earnestly held differing opinions from a single source can be confusing. Get used to it.
 

droid

Active member
cavemanmike said:
Some people are just tooooo much up there own arse.
I just go caving

If by that you mean some people take themselves faaaaaaar too seriously, I agree.

But then, caving is a pastime, to be taken seriously when you are doing it, but utterly pointless unless it's fun.

And being 'controversial;, confusing and generally taking the piss out of those that take themselves and caving politics too seriously is also fun.
 

Roger W

Well-known member
Cap'n Chris said:
NewStuff said:
In the case of Chris Binding/Cap'n Chris, it's was "Smiley Alan" where he passed himself off as a user challenged by dyslexia or similar disability, until he was outed.

Pretty much spot one, and it was a fair cop. It was great fun while it lasted and I thoroughly enjoyed myself and have zero regrets, sorry about that. ;-)

In my defence I would like to add that it's very difficult to have a consistent stance/opinion on this forum from a single account especially when wearing as many hats as I once used to (and mostly still do), namely: conservationist, sports caver, professional caver, landowner/ACB, regional council member (erstwhile secretary, conservation & access officer and training officer - over 10+ years), obsessive digger, BCA trainer/assessor, erstwhile moderator, ACI member, expedition caver, LAP Member, film-maker, BCA Training Committee member, BCA C&A Committee co-opted member, club caver (3-5 clubs depending on year), technical adviser, writer, top poster here (yay, still No.1!)  .... and non-compliant awkward free-thinking sod. There's more, but that's enough to get the gist.

The secondary account (ironically) facilitated a degree of lessened schizophrenia which enabled free-er input on controversial topics while also tipping a wink at a smiley person I unfortunately know called Alan, who features as a pathologically unsmiley curmudgeon (hence the coffee-choking hilarity of the name), but now people just have to work out which persona's perspective I'm writing from. C'est la vie. It's complicated, man.

We aspire to continue being legion and complex. Thank you NewStuff for the timely prompt/opportunity to blow my trumpet. Cheers.

Everyone will need to raise their game and keep up. Multiple earnestly held differing opinions from a single source can be confusing. Get used to it.

Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" "My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many."  Mark 5:9 - look it up...
 
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