Access to Penyghent Pot and Dale Head area

[Badlad]

The tax heritage asset element of this was brought up a few years ago with lots of links for further information and discussion here.

https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=17250.0

If you read this thread it is worth noting that the estate falls under the category of exempt land and not 'buildings' or 'works of art' which can have some restrictions attached to them.

In the three years since this thread the estate has been fairly unresponsive to requests to establish a dialogue on renegotiation of the old agreement(1978 we understand).  The previous access officer was offered the opportunity to discuss this at a cost of ?78 per hour and CNCC rejected this.  Further discussion with outside bodies has left the CNCC to decide on the best direction to take which they now have following some very recent amicable communication with representatives of the estate.  The whole issue has obviously been a lengthy considered process.

 

[Jenny P]

The previous access officer was offered the opportunity to discuss this at a cost of ?78 per hour and CNCC rejected this.



Well done to CNCC for persisting with this.

 

[kay]

Here's the link to land with access in lieu of tax, if anyone is interested
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/gds/heritage/lbsearch.htm

 

[mikem]

It's Langcliffe Estate (Pen y Ghent & Langcliffe Scar) - "Access for pot-holers is under the auspices of the council of Northern Caving Clubs by agreement between that body and the owners."
http://www.visitukheritage.gov.uk/servlet/com.eds.ir.cto.servlet.CtoLandDbQueryServlet?region=6&colflag=N

Apart from Bolton Abbey in Wharfedale, most of the others are in North Yorks Moors or Vale of York, but haven't checked through other regions.

Mike

 

[kay]

"Access for walkers and horse riders is via roadways and public paths as indicated on the map" - it seems HMRC haven't quite caught up with CRoW yet

 

[andrewmcleod]

"Access for walkers and horse riders is via roadways and public paths as indicated on the map" - it seems HMRC haven't quite caught up with CRoW yet

Horse riding isn't covered by CROW I believe, and while walkers get the right to cover CROW land 90+% of the time they are allowed to close access for whatever number of days per year it is. But yes, these old tax-exempt agreements (some of them reference Inland Revenue) may predate CROW.