Application for BCA Secretary

Cavematt

Well-known member
Hi again everyone (you may want to get a cup of tea...)

Firstly, I just wanted to say thank you for the phenomenal show of support both in the posts above and in private messages. I am overwhelmed. I have also received very encouraging messages from the current Acting Secretary and Treasurer too.

I am certainly not seeking to take on this role for any kind of power-grab. Plus, I have quite enough work to keep me busy in the CNCC, as a club chair and as an active caver and digger. In fact, I was rather hoping to scale back my involvement in caving ?politics? this summer! This has not gone well so far! I am seeking to take on this role because I am disappointed by the current public opinion of the BCA and the lack of enthusiasm within the organisation to embrace change and move with the times, and I hope I can help be part of changing this culture.

I cannot do this alone though; it needs the support of others within the BCA to move outside of comfort zones and to look forwards, not backwards.

One thing that surprised me at the January Council meeting was the number of barriers to change. Any kind of change seems to get ?outsourced? to a Standing Committee or Working Group to discuss. I?m hugely in favour of these sub-committees and groups working behind the scenes to discuss BCA matters off-line and do the legwork of the Council in its key facets outside of the core meetings. Matters that require input from various sources and careful consultation are best handled by them before they come to Council.

However, excessive outsourcing of relatively simple proposals has the effect of devaluing the Council meeting itself (for which numerous people have travelled hundreds of miles at considerable travel expense to the BCA). Council meetings have much greater democratic representation than any Standing Committee ever could, and we should be taking greater advantage of this. Furthermore, seeing simple decisions outsourced may discourage people from presenting new ideas in the first place. Not everyone has the willpower to navigate such a lengthy procedure.

Jane Allen came to the January Council meeting in her P&I role. She presented a proof of a new BCA website homepage and a more-or-less finished and ready-to-go BCA-branded New-to-Caving leaflet to be distributed nationally to promote caving. Jane was essentially instructed to come back when she had convened the P&I Standing Committee (requiring all regional councils and constituent bodies to be given the opportunity to get involved; a lengthy process).

The leaflets could have been adopted there and then by the Council? this did not need to go away for consultation in a currently unconvened Standing Committee!

This is an occasion where a little more positivity and spontaneity could have delivered an excellent result for the BCA immediately. Instead these leaflets now need to be discussed by a Standing Committee that hasn?t convened yet! An excellent initiative has been delayed for several months, sufficiently long to discourage all but the most determined of people from putting such good initiatives forward in the first place.

The new website homepage proof received a very mute reception; this surprised me. At the rate things are going, it may be years before a new website is up and running, despite this being one of the recurring themes in various questionnaires.

Website homepage proof: http://british-caving.org.uk.77-68-41-30.cfxhosting.co.uk/

Therefore, something I would like to consider is Standing Committees and how they are constituted and used. The BCA has five Standing Committees:

> Conservation and Access
> Equipment and Techniques
> Youth Development
> Training
> Publications and Information

A problem with Standing Committees is that it?s very hard for them to all work as they should. Ideally, they should be well represented, with (according to the BCA constitution) contributors from each Regional Council and constituent body of the BCA (a total of 13 groups).

The CNCC, like many Regional Councils, struggles to get people to fill our key roles (we are going into our AGM in a few weeks with one Officer position still vacant), let alone enough volunteers to be representatives on all the BCA?s five Standing Committees (the CNCC has representation to only two). I suspect this problem is echoed in several organisations. This means some Standing Committees fall short of the level of representation the BCA constitution allows, which undermines their effectiveness.

In short; the way the BCA is constituted is perhaps too ambitious for the number of people willing to get involved in running British Caving. I do feel that some reconsideration of the structure of the BCA in terms of its makeup is needed; In particular, which facets actually need a Standing Committee, and which would be better off delivered by a single Officer consulting nationally as required to bring final proposals to Council.

I will say now that my current thinking is that the P&I may be better served by a single Officer or additional member of the Executive (free to co-opt assistants as they see fit of course) rather than as a Standing Committee.

Most importantly for now is that Standing Committees and Working Groups should not stand in the way of well-presented initiatives and ideas from enthusiastic individuals being voted upon by Council. In other words, Standing Committees and Working Groups should not be used as somewhere to ?park? good ideas that are ready to implement.

Overall, I favour streamlining some decision making to get more things done using the limited resource the BCA has available.

To get the ball rolling, there will be several proposals forthcoming to the AGM in June. Exactly who is proposing and seconding these is to be confirmed (I am still in discussion with several individuals about these), however, they all have my full support. The actual wording and specifics of the proposals also need to be finalised, but here is the gist of what they will involve and why they are important.

Proposal 1

The first proposal will be for the immediate adoption (subject to any minor tweaks or corrections agreed at the AGM) of Jane Allen?s New to Caving leaflets, under the BCA name (and new logo, subject to the third proposal being accepted). A ?1000 budget has already been agreed. Unfortunately, the PDF of these leaflets exceeds the size allowable for attachment to this post, but it will no doubt be part of the BCA AGM agenda documentation. These leaflets are exactly what the BCA should be encouraging to promote caving.

I am also hoping Jane will restand for the P&I position following her resignation in January; there is nobody better for the role (but that?s a separate matter).

Proposal 2

The second proposal will be for the appointment of Gary Douthwaite as BCA webmaster and for Gary to redevelop the website, BCA communications systems, and BCA online, and be provided with all necessary access, rights and information needed to achieve this.

In the interests of transparency, Gary is the CNCC webmaster (plus the web designer for Hidden Earth, EuroSpeleo 2016, Northern Caves, Northern Pennine Club and York Caving Club, if anyone wants examples of his work). He is also my husband.

Gary has been one of the greatest assets in overhauling the CNCC over the past five years. Having the Secretary (me) and Webmaster (Gary) working on adjacent computers has massively helped in the CNCC to streamline efforts.

At the January Council meeting, Jane Allen presented a proof of a new BCA website homepage which Gary had designed (see link above). Jane?s idea was for Gary to develop the BCA website commercially (he is a professional web developer) as his free time is very limited. By doing this commercially it would enable him to justify working on it during office hours and thus able to designate more time to the project to achieve a better result.

However, since that meeting, Gary has decided that he would not wish to do this commercially as it creates conflicts of interests and means he would essentially be working for the BCA rather than with the BCA. This would limit what personal input he could have as it would essentially generate a client-customer relationship. Gary is therefore willing to provide his time for free (in his spare time) as BCA webmaster.

Although Gary would be providing his time for free, it will be necessary to pay for specific web services that the BCA do not provide, that will be essential to the good running of the site (e.g. use of Microsoft Office365, relevant security software etc). A reasonable budget should be made available for such things.

The new website will be modern, fresh, appealing, while still containing all the useful information that the current one does, albeit restructured somewhat. Communications systems would be overhauled. Finally, if proposal #4 is accepted, Gary would also redevelop BCA-online to include online voting for all individual members in time for the 2020 AGM.

I would like to end this by expressing my respect for the current webmaster, who has maintained a perfectly functional website for many years, keeping the content as up to date as possible (hampered by a lack of new content being provided to him). The work involved should not be underestimated, and frankly, anyone who has given up so much of their time to benefit caving deserves the upmost respect. However, for the BCA to modernise, I feel the input of a new webmaster is needed, to bring new ideas and vision. This will allow the current webmaster to focus more on his other BCA roles, and thus improve the robustness of the BCA (i.e. not having so many roles so dependent on one person).

Proposal 3

The third proposal will be for the adoption of a new logo for the BCA.

While the current logo is recognisable and has served BCA well for many years, it appears a bit dated and amateurish. General feedback on UK Caving is that cavers are not keen on it.

The logo presented by Jane Allen at the January Council meeting seems to have been popular and I would support this being adopted, subject to a few refinements to address any reasonable comments. Jane will be presenting a portfolio for this logo to accompany the proposal (e.g. black on white, white on black, landscape, portrait etc). The discussion on BCA logo was on this UK Caving thread: https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=24341.0

The logo is of course a caver looking out of Dollytubs over Alum Pot, an iconic viewpoint in British Caving.

Given the initiatives to push ahead with the national leaflets and new website (assuming these proposals are accepted), the decision on whether to adopt a new logo needs to be made now so that the new material can be launched with the logo that our membership wishes to move forward with, be that the current or new one.

Proposal 4

The fourth proposal will be the biggie.

There will be a series of proposed constitutional amendments to remove the two-house voting system at General Meetings and to make voting for individuals only (i.e. CIMs/DIMs) and not groups (i.e. clubs, constituent bodies, regional councils). This will be accompanied by some other proposed amendments to make online voting a mandatory option for most or all proposals and motions presented to an Annual General Meeting.

If successful, and assuming Gary is appointed BCA webmaster, BCA online would be redeveloped before the 2020 AGM to allow this online voting to happen using our own bespoke system, without having to employ the services of an external company.

These changes would reduce bureaucracy and simplify the voting system by removing the two houses. The current system essentially gives the same weight to a vote from a club with five members as it does to a club with 200 members, all of who already have a vote anyway as an individual BCA member (thus it creates duplication of representation). The BCA Chairman raised this very issue at the January Council meeting.

Clubs of course would still have an important role in promoting voting to their members. If there are any motions a club (or regional council or constituent body) feels strongly about, they can encourage their own members to vote accordingly, and thus the number of votes originating through that club/body will be proportional to the number of members it has. These measures will encourage clubs/groups to engage with their members about BCA democratic decisions, something that may be rather lacking at the moment.

This creates a much better, fairer, simpler and more modern-minded democratic system.

These changes are in no way intended to devalue the importance of clubs in British Caving. I am a club caver (through three different clubs, one of which I was involved in founding) and I probably always will be a club-orientated caver. However, to make participation available to more people via online voting, without increasing the bureaucratic burden of the two-house system, these changes are needed.

As this proposal relates to the constitution, it needs to be accepted in both houses (i.e. groups and individuals) with 70% majority and then accepted in a ballot of all members. This will require 70% of groups at the AGM (e.g. Regional Councils, Clubs, Constituent bodies) to essentially vote to abolish their own vote. I hope that groups (and individuals) can support this and see that it is part of the bigger picture for positive change in the way the BCA operates; and that it would go hand in hand with introduction of online voting, which will allow all CIM and DIM members to democratically participate in BCA business. A huge improvement in democracy overall, rather than a reduction.

Conclusions

I hope that these proposals set the BCA in the right direction for the future.

None of these proposals are set in stone yet and they do not need to be submitted until the 13th April deadline. I will be liaising with various people over the coming month or so to get these finalised. However, I wanted to get these ideas out into the public domain now for everyone to start mulling over, and to provide the opportunity for comments/feedback which could help to refine the proposals prior to submission.

I know that this all sounds very fast; these kinds of changes would usually happen much more gradually and after much more consultation within the BCA arena. I apologise if I appear arrogant for presenting such proposals without wider consultation.

I am aware that there are many who will see these proposals as unnecessary. I know some in Council believe that the BCA needs a period of stability rather than change. I do not think I am the right person to provide this. I have heard some suggest that we shouldn?t waste time fussing over the website. I disagree, and the results of the Vision Group questionnaire would support me on this.

Some people may be of the belief that unilateral proposals by individuals direct to Council or AGM has little place in a National Body. Unfortunately, participants for such Committees aren?t queuing up and we must be realistic about the fact that the BCA is a volunteer-led organisation? and people are very busy these days! Embracing the enthusiasm of proactive individuals with a well-considered idea/proposal is essential.

There will also be many BCA members who believe the current two-house voting system is a critical part of the BCA and fear that removing this would undermine the role of clubs in British Caving. I believe that the changes I propose and the importance of clubs in British Caving do not need to be mutually exclusive.

At present, I think I am the only applicant for the Secretary role, meaning I will be appointed by default without a vote. This could end up with me being appointed, but my objectives for change being rejected, which would be a problematic situation that would benefit nobody. I would therefore welcome other applicants from individuals providing an alternative vision or agenda. It would be democracy at its finest to have a proper election! If someone else was elected Secretary, I would do my best to support and assist them (if they wanted me to of course). My standing for the role is borne out of perceived necessity rather than a burning desire to take the position on.

Whatever your opinion, please come to the AGM and have your say. Even if my application and proposals are rejected, but serve to get loads of people along to the AGM and to engage with the BCA then this will be a pleasing achievement. The BCA does amazing things thanks to many dedicated volunteers (many of who are largely unsung) and it deserves more attention and thanks from British cavers than it currently receives.

Thanks everyone (especially if you've had the patience to read this to the end).

Matt Ewles

 

MarkS

Moderator
As a current member of the BCA council, I couldn't agree more with these comments and would fully support the proposals.

Something I'd been meaning to do was to attempt to quantify the level of bureaucracy in the BCA. A quick scan of the current constitution shows the BCA council itself is made up of between 21 and 29(!) volunteers, and the standing committees nominally involve a further 25 volunteers (excluding co-opted volunteers) That's a total of 46 - 54+ volunteers for BCA to run according to its constitution, excluding people involved in working groups. To a first approximation, that is about 1% of the total membership. Put that way, it suddenly seems obvious why volunteers are hard to come by.

I've know Matt for >10 years. British cavers would be foolish not to make the most of his motivation!
 

nearlywhite

Active member
There's a lot I agree with you on there Matt.

With regards to the constitution, it is my hope that the Vision group write an entirely new one with all of the policy positions taken out and items regarding procedure moved to the manual of operations. So an interim constitutional change that allows electronic voting is a critical step in actually getting real change down the line. This argument needs advancing on more than just UKC (sorry Jane  :-[) because I think there will be widespread support if you reach people.

I think working groups work well if you find the right person to get volunteers involved and P&I does need a team of people. That said I think you are best off removing all the extra IT and P&I positions on council (Cave Registry, IT, Newsletter Editor, Webmaster, Web Services Officer).

There are plenty others that can be managed under existing groups too:
Crow, Rope-Test Officer,  Insurance Manager, Library Rep, Media-Liaison, Safeguarding, Membership Administrator, Training Administrator.

Many of these are the same people which is why I think things can get a bit confusing.
 

Cavematt

Well-known member
Hello all

Thanks again for all the support from so many UKC users for my proposals.

Unfortunately, this support has not been widely echoed outside of this forum, particularly within groups who will be voting at the AGM. In several discussions and messages, it has been made clear that proceeding with these proposals will damage the BCA and British caving, and the proposals will be rejected in favour of alternative proposals likely to also be on the table.

It seems that for me to push ahead with the vision and proposals I have outlined above would require me to lead a coup, which is not something I am willing to do, as it would split British caving in half; This really would damage our sport which is the last thing I want to achieve.

It seems that the wish to avoid ?rocking the boat? too much is vastly stronger than I anticipated. I am therefore withdrawing my application and will not be progressing any proposals.

I am aware of one other individual who was considering standing for Secretary (and may have done so had I not). I have decided to withdraw before the application deadline (13th April) to provide opportunity for him (or anyone else interested) to come forward with an alternative vision/ agenda, one which is perhaps a little less controversial and more likely to be supported; but hopefully still one which will steer the BCA in the direction of the modernisation it needs.

Sorry to disappoint UKC users here who have been extremely supportive (and have taken the time to read my very long posts). Unfortunately, there is just too much opposition outside of this forum for me to push forward and I have no desire to suffer humiliation at the AGM which now appears inevitable.

Hopefully modernisation can still happen under alternative leadership, albeit more sympathetically, which can gain greater support from all regions.

On a positive note (for me at least) I can now start planning holidays for the next three years of my life that I had essentially ?written off? and focus on continuing to work on behalf of northern cavers within the CNCC, who have been extremely supportive.

Hopefully my discussions above will make people more aware of or interested in what is going on within the BCA and will encourage more individuals and clubs to sit up and pay attention to our national body, which can only be a good thing in the long run, regardless of what happens this summer.

Matt Ewles
 

Pitlamp

Well-known member
I'm really sad to learn of your decision Matt. You're exactly the sort of sensible statesperson we need.

I can follow your reasoning - and respect your decision. But I would add that there's no "humiliation" in putting well considered suggestions forward, even if others do decide to vote against them.

Now you've recovered some free time, perhaps you'd consider going into proper politics, to sort this Brexit fiasco out. Someone like you would probably do a far better job! 

Or perhaps progress at a certain underground project we were both involved with a while ago will now accelerate? Every cloud . . . .    ;)
 

Badlad

Administrator
Staff member
Sad news for us all.  Thanks for at least giving it your consideration.  It appears that any sort of forward thinking progressive modernisation is too much for the BCA old guard.  You'd have to have the strength of Hercules to push back against those negative waves and then some.  Many good people have come and taken a look at BCA and run a mile.  There is still hope that someone else will stand up and lead it out of the dysfunctional shambles that many people perceive it is.

I've thought about the root problems at BCA a lot during my time as CRoW officer and CNCC rep.  The depth of problems and the diverse views within caving seem insurmountable.  I concluded that the only real answer is to establish a new association for the progressive members and groups within caving and leave those who like it the way it is to remain with the current outfit.  That would cause a split of course but it is a feasible answer and, as Matt has found out, the prospects of changing things from within are a very big ask.

Still, the chances of someone setting up an alternative is pretty slim so the modernisers amongst us must just keep trying.

 

droid

Active member
Point is, Matt, that if people are discussing your proposals you've sown a seed

The seed might not have germinated yet, but it's there and won't go away. Have patience and there might be movement.

Many people 'of a certain age' don't like change, but if given time will tolerate it.


Good luck.
 

GarDouth

Administrator
This is a shame indeed. I had tried hard to change Matt's mind but have to respect his decision.

My personal view on this is that we have lost probably the only chance the BCA had to modernise. Matt would have been a breath of fresh air to our sport and would have brought with him several equally enthusiastic supporters for change. I was really hoping to have a governing body to be proud of in the coming years.

This has affected me more than I thought it would. I feel disheartened and frustrated by the views of some and find myself thinking more like "what's the point in trying?". No one I have ever spoken to has a good word to say about BCA and I am aware of several clubs and individuals who are no longer going to continue paying to be apart of it. If this happens, the BCA will continue down-hill to a point of no return.

Along with Matt I will also not be perusing my proposal for modernisation of web services and want no further involvement unless things change.

I can only hope that someone else takes up the roll with some new ideas but I fear a continuation of "we're ok as we are" and "we better not upset anyone" approach.

A sad day for caving.
 

David Rose

Active member
Hold on a sec.

Matt, who are these people who have been arguing against you in the shadows? Are you sure they have any followers? Because an awful lot of cavers read and use this forum, and so far as I can see, there has not been a single voice dissenting from your excellent proposals and general vision. And I haven't come across anyone anywhere else who disagrees with your approach, and doesn't think you becoming secretary would be a hugely positive step.

I don't think we have to split the British caving world. We simply have to win some important debates. And judging by the forum, we have the numbers to do this, comfortably.

Are you certain you won't reconsider? The old guard reactionaries - whoever they are - may be vociferous, and they may have put  pressure on you, but that may be because they realise they're unlikely to prevail - but only if those who support modernisation stand up to them. We've already lost Jane Allen. We can't afford to lose you too! 
 

GarDouth

Administrator
David Rose said:
We simply have to win some important debates. And judging by the forum, we have the numbers to do this, comfortably.

The problem is that it's easy to pass comment on the forum and many people give support - which is great - but how many of the supporters will actually give up a day to turn up the the AGM to vote? Historically a VERY small proportion of UK cavers will turn up to an AGM or meeting so until that changes, nothing in the BCA will change. It's the same people with the same views that turn up to vote so they have no opposition.

EVERY individual member has the option to vote or submit a proposal for change - and it's not too late. If you don't want to get involved personally, check what your club is planning to vote for or against and make sure someone is going to represent your views.
 

PeteHall

Moderator
droid said:
Many people 'of a certain age' don't like change, but if given time will tolerate it.

From the grave perhaps...

I feel like many problems in British caving will be resolved as one generation dies off and another steps forward.

Just got to hope they don't kill off too much with them, or that the next generation doesn't fall into the same trap as they age...

Matt, you may be voted down if you stand, but if you don't stand, you've let them win without even having to fight it. I can't say I blame you at all, but I would urge you to reconsider. If they vote you down, so what, you've got your holidays back, at least it will be on the record that you tried.

If on the other hand, enough people turn up and support you... You'll be busy, so forget the holidays!
 

Ian P

Administrator
Staff member
Matt

I have never been to a BCA AGM and never had a desire to go to one.

However this one I was going to attend and give my support in person.

Obviously the choice is yours and I understand your reluctance to proceed.

Enjoy those holidays  :)
 

blackshiver

Member
A sad day for caving indeed; when I find two very well respected and highly proactive caver's, declining to get involved with the BCA - especially when one uses the words "I have no desire to suffer humiliation at the AGM which now seems inevitable".
I also read that the Jane Allen, used the words "humiliated, embarrassed and chastised" to describe her feelings prior to her resignation last year (detailed in full in the Jan 2019 BCA newsletter).
This sad state of affairs regarding the feelings of three highly progressive and selfless individuals cannot be acceptable, given that we (as general caver's) have to rely on the good nature of new volunteers to drive the BCA day to day.
In order to (hopefully) make Matt and Gary feel a little better about their combined decision - I would like to point out here - that at Euro-speleo I took time to personally introduce Matt and Garry to two of Caving's God's (The Brooks) whom I have known since I was a child. I naively thought this would give them an "uplift" in terms of their exploration and digging exploits. What happened was quite the reverse - with Dave and Alan enthusiastically thanking Matt and Gary for their selfless work in bringing positive and very well accepted change to the CNCC and, quite to the contrary - being highly delighted to meet them!
As a guy rapidly approaching 60 and having caved since the age of 14 I just got back from Wales having spent over a week caving with 20 students - there is no more sobering experience as to a generation gap than that. When we find people like Matt, Gary and Jane having to step aside from the BCA what on earth are the (really) young people, who are the future lifeblood of our lifelong love of caving going to think of our National Body.
Myself, I'm just a Moldywarp and am therefore inherently not "political", have no axes to grind and alway's try to be positive when I post on UK Caving - so I'll end on a positive note.
With the weight off Matt's mind I look forward to an excellent presentation on the North York Moors at Sam's Northern Explorers Forum!
 

kay

Well-known member
Ian P said:
Matt

I have never been to a BCA AGM and never had a desire to go to one.

However this one I was going to attend and give my support in person.

I went to one, and lost heart after 2-3 hours. An hour or so later everyone piled out, and I thought it had finished - but, no, it was just the lunch break. I've not been to one since. But I was going to go to this one. And I still am - even though I won't have the opportunity to support Matt's secretaryship, perhaps there will be chance to comment or to vote and suggest that not everyone is in favour of "business as normal".

This year it's in the north - how about a big turn out of northern cavers to do what we can to ensure that our concerns are brought to the attention of the meeting?
 

TheBitterEnd

Well-known member
Really sorry to hear that you won't be standing Matt but I understand your position.

Badlad said:
Still, the chances of someone setting up an alternative is pretty slim so the modernisers amongst us must just keep trying.

I would guess that this idea has probably occurred to a few people but I?m going to say it out-loud

N(orthern)Exit? (I know, I know  ;) )

But seriously, the CNCC has been doing a great job in recent years and the BCA, for all the talk of National Bodies, etc. has had to be dragged kicking and screaming towards representing the views of cavers nationwide and is, it seems, still fighting against that. So why not make the CNCC the main voice for progressive cavers? I realise this is not a trivial suggestion, for most people the main role of the BCA is to provide insurance cover so it would mean the CNCC having to take on the role of organising that cover and collecting subscriptions etc. It might also need changes relating to representation etc. (just as the BCA does) but that could be further down-the-road. I wonder if clubs would be prepared to chip-in out of any cash reserves they may have, or a club subcription levy, to kick-start something like this? (knowing cavers, probably not, but you never know unless you ask).
 
I know this suggestion represents a split and that is often not a good thing but giving people a choice and getting them to vote with their wallets is the strongest possible mandate for change.
 

CatM

Moderator
Ian P said:
Matt

I have never been to a BCA AGM and never had a desire to go to one.

However this one I was going to attend and give my support in person.

Obviously the choice is yours and I understand your reluctance to proceed.

Enjoy those holidays  :)
Exactly this.
I do hope you'll reconsider, Matt.

Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

 

andrewmcleod

Well-known member
I would also point out that disapproval is often much noisier than approval. At the CNCC AGM where proposals were suggested, there appeared to be quite a bit of disapproval about elements of them, but when it came to a vote it was 11-2 in favour (if I remember correctly) which is a landslide.

If all the Northern clubs that turned up to the CNCC AGM turned up to the BCA AGM I would be very surprised if they didn't hold a majority in the House of Groups (and quite possibly in the House of Individuals as well via their representatives).
 

PeteHall

Moderator
Can someone remind me why the NCA became the BCA.

As I understand it (bearing in mind that this is before my time), there were various insurmountable constitutional issues in the NCA and the easiest solution was to dispand it and reform as the BCA.

Assuming I haven't completely missed the point, could a similar thing happen again, with sufficient will power?
 

not_a_climber

New member
Matt and Gary - it's a great shame that you both won't be joining the BCA council, I was really looking forward to the addition of a few more people under the age of 50. I understand the reasons Matt has given for retracting his nomination but I'll echo the comments of others on here that if you don't put up a fight then you've no chance of winning at all. 'Modernisation' as everyone is calling it will come to the BCA - there is no way of stopping it (not that anyone would want to ;)). The inclusion of fresh voices in council and on sub-committees will simply speed up the process and get us where we need to be faster and more easily.

To this end, I'll be putting myself forward for the position of Conservation and Access Officer at this year's AGM, to continue the fantastic work that Andrew Hinde and the C&A committee have been doing for the last three years. If anyone is interested you can read my letter of nomination below - and I hope that those who've said they're attending the AGM will consider voting for me!

For the attention of the BCA council and wider membership,

My name is Louise, I?m a caver with SUSS and the BPC and currently sit on BCA council as a Direct Individual Member representative. I would like to put myself forward to fill the role of Conservation & Access Officer at the AGM in June.

One quarter of university club cavers stated that access rights and campaigns are an important part of the work of the BCA, in a questionnaire carried out at the 2018 CHECC forum. I?m proud of that figure; it shows that the work that the Conservation and Access team do is noticed and appreciated by the membership. This strong belief in responsible access by the future of British caving is one I share, and one I want to champion for all BCA members as Conservation & Access Officer.

I work as a ranger in the Peak District, in an area that is partly owned by the Peak District National Park Authority, Severn Trent Water and Sheffield City Council. This area is divided into an overlapping patchwork of open access and private land, SSSI and Scheduled Ancient Monuments, containing a network of permissive paths, public footpath, concessionary and public bridleways and byways. We host 3 different farming tenants, attract climbers to the gritstone edges, wild swimmers to the reservoirs, and fell runners and dog walkers alike to the open moorlands.

Working in such a complex landscape has introduced me to the intricacies of working with land owners, managers, farmers and user groups in many different forms to sustainably manage access. This juggling act is something I believe can readily be applied to British caving and the C&A role. I will represent British cavers and champion our access rights at a policy level, to ensure our future access is not a freedom we must fight for but a right we are entitled to in law through the recognition of caving as an activity in the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000 as well as in other legislation.

Alongside this I will continue the work that the C&A committee does to promote conservation conscious caving and ensure that the delicate nature of our caves and mines are maintained for future generations.

At a recent meeting of the Sport and Recreation Alliance which I attended on behalf of the BCA C&A committee, it was clear that we all have common aims; to increase sustainable access for the continued pursuit of the sports we love. Through taking part in the wider discussion of recreational access, the BCA can fit into this bigger picture and add our voice and our support to the community of sports to which we belong, as well as receive support from them when we need it.

I will happily represent the BCA at this level to show these other organisations that the BCA is looking to the future and is ready to work together, putting on a fresh new face to represent our long term interests.

The role of the BCA Conservation & Access Officer and committee is only part of the picture; regional councils, clubs and individual cavers are all a vital part of the access to and conservation of Britain?s underground places. We all need to work together for sustainable access and I look forward to working with you all over the next three years.
 

Mike Hopley

New member
I'm hugely impressed by all of Matt's posts here. He has great ideas and a cooperative, positive, and respectful attitude. He has a track record of being effective in the CNCC.

While I'm really an outsider to caving politics, I can't help despairing at the apparent mothballed state of the BCA, and Matt seems like the ideal person to effect positive change. I feel this is a huge missed opportunity for British Caving. :(
 
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