Bless him he is eight. He has done about 8 trips, Swindon's upper, Swindon's to trap 1, Goarchurch. He has got a natural ability and he is always saying he wants to do more. Even when he finished bath rods pull through he wanted to do sidcot. Rods pots did not phase him even knowing about the drop. I am keen to emus Charlie in Caving. He loves it. Thanks to Duncan also. I gave up caving when I had Charlie so its great I'm doing it with him.