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Bats in Caves Training Sessions 2009

Big Jim

Member
Yet again Jess Eades and myself are planning to do more Bat Training sessions for Peak Cavers this winter. Weve already got a lot of interest from various groups.

We will probably follow same format as last year - half a day or so to go over basic bat ecology, the law and then poking around some old mines looking for bats and identifying the species.

If anyone wants to come send me a PM and Ill add you to the waiting list. The first session will probably be mid December.

Big Jim
 

Lampwick

Member
Jim who?

One bat seen fluttering about in Goodluck, so a quick question: When do they start roosting for winter? (or shoud I sign up for the full lecture?)
 

Peter Burgess

New member
As I understand it, this is the season for swarming in advance of hibernation. Bats flying around underground at the moment are unlikely to have been disturbed - they are very much awake anyway. Once the season gets colder though, you cannot be so sure. It probably depends on where you are in the UK as well. In Surrey, our closed season doesn't really start until the end of November. It is probably earlier in colder regions.
 

Coxie

New member
Hi Jim,

Do you know of any similar schemes happening in Devon o or cornwall over the winter, I'd like to learn as much as possible.
 

Big Jim

Member
Martin, ha-bloody-ha. I was still too tired on Tues to come down Batemans. As Pete has just said its swarming season now (getting towards the end of it really) when bats congregate in caves etc for a bit of 'owz yer father'. I had a Whiskered in Millers Chamber (Eldon Hole) t'other week and all being well we will be sticking some gear down there soon to see exactly whats about as its far too big to go poking about in the roof as we do in the mines.

Coxie, not sure what goes on in Devon n Cornwall. It could be worth contacting one of the local bat groups to see what they can offer. Im not sure how caver friendly they are though but probably about time a few bridges were built. Surely there are some South West cavers who are also licenced bat workers? Or is it just me n Jess in Derbyshire? Try the Bat Conservation Trust website - it has a page on to help find local bat groups. I cant guarantee though that they wont be bunny huggers (or even goths :eek:)

Big Jim
 

Coxie

New member
Big Jim said:
I cant guarantee though that they wont be bunny huggers (or even goths :eek:)

:LOL: My wife-to-be is a bunny huggin' ecologist so I'll be in familiar territory  ;)

I think she knows the local bat group too... Thanks Jim.
 

ttxela

New member
Me and my dad, Alex had a long journey up to Matlock in the snow but luckily it was just like a normal drive. We met big Jim at the Woodside cafe along with some others: Jess, Old git Rick and his dog, Aunty Ann, Roy Rodgers and Kev n Nemo. We went in the cafe to talk the boring things over like the bat protection laws and what not. Big Jim gave us a nice pack that said about bats and that the fancy word for bat was Chiropteran.

After that we got our gear on and split into teams. I and my dad got to go in Big Jim's team along with Kev n Nemo. I have to say Jim was very into talking but in a good way. Anyhow we set off with high hopes of seeing a bat. It was quite a long walk especially with a small but steep hill in the way of the cave. Still we managed to get there and if you see the pictures of us on facebook you will see how much energy it took.

The first mine we went in did I mention was called Jacobs Dream. The entrance of the cave was infested with moths and spiders but I soon got used to it (luckily). The first bat we saw was nested in a nice little corner that I would of loved to squeezed into as it looked quite warm. Oh and did I remember to say the first bat was called a Brandts bat. Soon we discovered two more, the only downside to discovering these wonderful creatures was not being able to stay close to them for long.

We soon got on with our journey and found a Daubentons me and dad were chuffed. Unfortunately they were the only three bats we saw in that mine... But still we made our way to the next mine called Bonsall Leys. We didn't really see much in there as it was pretty small and very wet in fact I got my feet cold and wet but I didn't let that spoil my day. I trod on my way out of the second mine sort of falling over at the same time.

And so that was that and we made our way back to the car park at a heavy pace.
 
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