Bob Mehew
Well-known member
The words of the constitution claimed to be against seeking CRoW applying to caving are "That the owners and tenants of property containing caves have the right to grant or withhold access." I suggest that does not preclude negotiation / discussion to change the land owners or even DEFRA / NE mind. (If not, then the words are clearly ridiculous since it would mean one cannot even go and try to persuade the land owner to change their mind to provide access.) But I think the words actually used in the statement accompanying the poll are different, something like 'continue a dialogue'. Can someone look them up and quote the precise words.Cookie said:The Council can not act against the Constitution until it has actually been amended. To negotiate* with DEFRA & NE would clearly be acting against the Constitution.
* presumably in favour of access under CROW for cavers.
Changing the constitution requires notice to be given of a SGM which requires at least 12 weeks notice. Plus I admit that a constitutional change requires 70% majority in both houses. My guess is that currently the house of groups (i.e clubs) will not vote above 70% judging by the responses of a number of clubs. It appears that many people are afraid to vote for the motion because they fear land owners will withdraw access permission. I am hoping that work by BCA will show this fear to be groundless.