BCA membership (Split from "How many caving clubs, and how many caves?")

[royfellows]

There was once a book "How to win friends and influence people"

An alternative would be "How to loose friends and upset people"

 

[Kenilworth]

There was once a book "How to win friends and influence people"

An alternative would be "How to loose friends and upset people"

Or, "How to spell lose and influence your uncle". 

 

[A_Northerner]

We (DDDWH CC) are no longer BCA members.

Literally who?

 

[Jenny P]

who are the big shots which you refer to?
"The likes of Mullan, Brocklebank and Burgess" and have they not got the backbone to answer their side of the story (or deny involvement) of what they've been up to? [if anything]

Please note that I did not quote any names in my post and, in any case, I do not even know two of those mentioned by name.  Someone has jumped to conclusions and come up with the wrong names.  My apologies to those three named.

I do know who was originally responsible for the "dirty war" and others do too, but I have no intention of naming him on a public forum.  In any case, AFAIK he does not read or post to UKcaving.

Talk (elsewhere) of throwing people out of BCA because they disagree with its policies is nonsense!  If you disagree, then you should engage and try to change what you don't like.

 

[Ian Adams]

..... you should engage and try to change ....

You mean like the ballot we had for CRoW access ?



Ian

 

[Jenny P]

..... you should engage and try to change ....

You mean like the ballot we had for CRoW access ?



Ian

Well, you sure as hell won't change things by griping about them on a web forum!

 

[NewStuff]

The issue is, we have engaged and participated, voted etc. But still the old guard are having it their way as we speak.

That's why so many people are disillusioned. We voted for change, and it's not happening and seems incredibly unlikely to happen.  I suspect griping on a web forum has had about the same effect on things as actually getting involved in them, given the current state of play.

 

[Bob Mehew]

In reply to Langclffe's question:

I agree that I am unable to find the BCA constitution on its website in the place where you would expect to find it: in the "about" section, under "documents".  I do have a copy of it myself but it should be on the website for all to see.

I don't see how Jenny missed it as she almost got there, see http://british-caving.org.uk/wiki3/doku.php?id=about:documents:bca_constitution.

 

[Madness]

Talk (elsewhere) of throwing people out of BCA because they disagree with its policies is nonsense!  If you disagree, then you should engage and try to change what you don't like.

I never suggested throwing people out because they didn't agree with policies, however if they are actively undermining what has been democratically decided, ie working against the organisation, then I think expulsion should be considered.

 

[Ian Adams]

Well, you sure as hell won't change things by griping about them on a web forum!

I'm on your side ... are you on mine?



Ian

 

[2xw]

We voted then heard nowt for ages, what's the point? These threads are making the whole thing sound like a shit game of thrones

Not all of us can afford to go down south to listen to wizened blokes dick measuring over semantics

Give us proxy votes and start live streaming the meetings! (Or at least release an audio recording immediately afterwards)