cap n chris
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kay said:I thought (the) objection was to do with disenfranchisement of those members who do not use the internet
It is 2015. Anyone who does not use the internet is disenfranchised.
kay said:I thought (the) objection was to do with disenfranchisement of those members who do not use the internet
Bob Mehew said:5. I stated "We have already asked for people to give us email addresses and 38% have chosen not to. That is fine and their choice. However we see it, it has to be better to canvas the views of 3,500 people over the 30 people who are attending today?s meeting."
Cap'n Chris said:kay said:I thought (the) objection was to do with disenfranchisement of those members who do not use the internet
It is 2015. Anyone who does not use the internet is disenfranchised.
I thought CNCC's objection was to do with disenfranchisement of those members who do not use the internet?
jasonbirder said:I thought CNCC's objection was to do with disenfranchisement of those members who do not use the internet?
Seriously - how many Caver's don't have internet access?
I've never met one...
Peter Burgess said:Three of our 120-ish members do not use the internet. When you send out official notifications/newsletters etc within a club you know who they are, and you willingly accommodate them. Two are senior gentlemen. Just as I wouldn't ignore members of my family if they don't use the internet, neither would I do so for my caving "family". Of the remainder, there are a number who are basic computer users who prefer not to spend much time on the web.
Peter Burgess said:Three of our 120-ish members do not use the internet. When you send out official notifications/newsletters etc within a club you know who they are, and you willingly accommodate them. Two are senior gentlemen. Just as I wouldn't ignore members of my family if they don't use the internet, neither would I do so for my caving "family". Of the remainder, there are a number who are basic computer users who prefer not to spend much time on the web.
Pegasus said:I wonder how many young members of the BCA are insistent on receiving a letter by snail mail rather than an e-mail?? I wonder what the young cavers - the future of our sport think about all this?? I wonder what impression this ridiculous situation gives to younger cavers?? I wonder if members of BMC insist on letters and don't want to receive e-mails?? Sometimes we cavers make ourselves look ridiculous....
Surely getting 300 responses by email is better than getting 30 who are bothered enough to turn up at an AGM?
Bob Mehew said:I would add that clubs with CIMs are under a duty to BCA to inform their membership of such developments. So for example clubs were asked to supply email addresses for CIMs. Some have, some presumably have not.
kay said:Yes, you're right that it is a generational thing. But are you suggesting we should only be interested in young cavers, "the future of our sport", and that older cavers who aren't happy about receiving all their correspondence, newsletters etc on line should simply be forgotten about?
The motion that was passed was to use email "and other means" - there isn't really much disagreement, is there? We seem to be all agreed that the BCA should use email and the internet. The only area of disagreement is whether it should make any provision for BCA members who aren't as fluent in their internet use.