Charging for a call out..???

AndyF

New member
I was told the other day that you are now likely to be charged should you need to call CRO out....

The chap assured me that someone had been billed ?5000.

I hadnt heard anything like that. Is there any truth in it, or is it a load of utter cobblers?  :confused: :confused:

 
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AndyW

Guest
I can assure you that is total rubbish. CRO is still operated as a charity.
 

Peter Burgess

New member
Is it just possible that one of the emergency services billed a commercial outfit in connection with a callout? Maybe in relation to a false alarm? The Fire Service charge businesses if they get called out to automated fire alarm systems when they go off by mistake, I believe.
 

Cave_Troll

Active member
Not that i know of. Even "repeat offenders"
There was one case where someone was "billed" following a mountain rescue callout. This was because he knew the rescuers and they sent him a joke bill to cheer him up while he was in hospital. I believe his wife did not realise it was a joke and started writing to BMC / MP etc to complain :)
 

AndyF

New member
AndyW said:
I can assure you that is total rubbish. CRO is still operated as a charity.

Well I did 99.9% presume the story was tosh, I would have been quite shocked if it were true. I shall be asking the person who told me this where the story came from.... :mad:

The volunteer ethos of the CRO is one of the best aspects of the caving hobby  :clap: :clap:



 

Pitlamp

Well-known member
I can assure you that the volunteer ethos of British cave rescue is very jealously guarded, for a great deal of extremely important reasons. I have no knowledge of the British Cave Rescue Council even considering a policy of charging. The principle has always been one of cavers just helping their mates. I hope it always remains so.
 

paul

Moderator
AndyF said:
I was told the other day that you are now likely to be charged should you need to call CRO out....

The chap assured me that someone had been billed ?5000.

I hadnt heard anything like that. Is there any truth in it, or is it a load of utter cobblers?  :confused: :confused:

Total and utter cobblers.

Not just CRO (Yorkshire Dales) but also all other Cave Rescue and Mountain Rescue teams.
 

ttxela

New member
Peter Burgess said:
Is it just possible that one of the emergency services billed a commercial outfit in connection with a callout? Maybe in relation to a false alarm? The Fire Service charge businesses if they get called out to automated fire alarm systems when they go off by mistake, I believe.

Only if it's as a result of a fault on the system and then only usually after repeated problems, accidental activations (leaning on the break glass etc.) are not charged for.
 

4bags

New member
ttxela said:
Peter Burgess said:
Is it just possible that one of the emergency services billed a commercial outfit in connection with a callout? Maybe in relation to a false alarm? The Fire Service charge businesses if they get called out to automated fire alarm systems when they go off by mistake, I believe.

Only if it's as a result of a fault on the system and then only usually after repeated problems, accidental activations (leaning on the break glass etc.) are not charged for.
....although they can get a bit pissy if repeated alarms are due to incompetent contractors on-site (e.g. ignoring the bit in the permit that says "isolate fire alarm zone during hot-works") o_O
 
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Londoncaver

Guest
Those with an interest in such things may be interested in the recent proposal in the House of Commons that cave and mountain rescue be able to retrieve VAT on their purchases.

The debate is here -

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm090121/halltext/90121h0001.htm

It's a brief debate (10 minute rule, I think), which doesn't reach a firm conclusion. But the speakers are all knowledgeable and supportive - and it raises lots of relevant issues constructively (volunteering, insurance, liability).

This issue was raised by Dr Brian Iddon (Bolton SE, Lab), but he's got support from all parties.
 
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