Covid-19 & caving activities - DCA Update
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Alex
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I must admit I do find them annoying, you can still hear them 2 miles away from the road in otherwise peaceful countryside, or completely deafen you if within 300m of one. Can't wait for the electric revolution, but I suspect many would still ride the combustion engine ones as it sounds cool?
They really are a pet peeve of mine, when out in the country. Thank-god you can't hear them down a cave.
Those and those boy-racer cars that make just as much noise, that sometimes fly past the house at 100mph (in a 30) waking me up.
Oh dear... when did that happen, I have become a moaning old man!
They really are a pet peeve of mine, when out in the country. Thank-god you can't hear them down a cave.
Those and those boy-racer cars that make just as much noise, that sometimes fly past the house at 100mph (in a 30) waking me up.
Oh dear... when did that happen, I have become a moaning old man!
Pitlamp
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You can hear them from the summit of Ingleborough on a still day Alex.
Most modern motorcycles are sold with very quiet exhausts. However, there's a strong aftermarket for race style exhausts which aren't as well baffled (because this reduces power) so these are a lot noisier. There are laws covering exhaust sound emissions and motorcyclists are sometimes prosecuted but I guess it's not that easy to police and they have other priorities.
Pwhole mentioned being offered a lift on the back of a bigger bike. This happened to me once and unfortunately I loved it. Not long after I took my test and have owned several bikes since, so it's cost me a fortune over the years. Really enjoyed it though. The last of my bikes went when we had a wet summer and I needed to chop it in to afford to buy a Land Rover.
I never went down the race exhaust route because you're supposed to tell your insurer about any modifications. Telling them about fitting something illegal seemed a pretty dumb thing to do. Not telling them is likely to lead to a nasty surprise if a claim is needed.
Most modern motorcycles are sold with very quiet exhausts. However, there's a strong aftermarket for race style exhausts which aren't as well baffled (because this reduces power) so these are a lot noisier. There are laws covering exhaust sound emissions and motorcyclists are sometimes prosecuted but I guess it's not that easy to police and they have other priorities.
Pwhole mentioned being offered a lift on the back of a bigger bike. This happened to me once and unfortunately I loved it. Not long after I took my test and have owned several bikes since, so it's cost me a fortune over the years. Really enjoyed it though. The last of my bikes went when we had a wet summer and I needed to chop it in to afford to buy a Land Rover.
I never went down the race exhaust route because you're supposed to tell your insurer about any modifications. Telling them about fitting something illegal seemed a pretty dumb thing to do. Not telling them is likely to lead to a nasty surprise if a claim is needed.
Mark Wright
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Alex said:
When I worked as a guide down Speedwell Cavern in the early 1980s I remember being in the Bottomless Pit Chamber with a party when we all heard a deafening noise coming down the canal. When we got out there was a large party of Hells Angels parked up in the car park. I did frighten a few tourists off. When they eventually left, after spending a fair bit of money in the shop, they set off 4 abreast up the Winnats. It was quite a sight and sound. All they left behind was about 40 patches of oil on the tarmac. They were all British bikes. Apparently they had been on a charity bike ride and raised a few thousand pounds for a Stockport children's hospice.
Anyway, I'm off to the Peaks now on the bike.
Mark
Alex
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I bet my bike is far quieter, there is a limit to the loudness I can make the brum brum noises when on it. Though, I may try going up to a drive through Gregs that are open on my push-bike, going "brum brum giggergigger" and see if they serve me?
Anyway off topic completely now!
pwhole
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We could easily hear the bikes going up Winnats Pass from the bottom of Longcliffe shaft, which is 40m. I distinctly remember banging my head against the wall that they'd still managed to reach me. Mind you, I can get a phone signal 10m below surface there, and have actually sent and received texts from the first rebelay, so I'm convinced that it's just a large natural megaphone. Of course that's a proper mobile phone, not one of these new-fangled pocket-computer gizmos.
Anyway - I had a chat with a couple of people in the village yesterday who were reassuring and appreciative about our policy of closure at the TSG Chapel, and I think staying as integrated as possible with village policy decisions is the only way to move forward - for us anyway, given our location. But we will contribute opinions as much as receive them, as there is a natural limit to all of these socio-political dilemmas and then progress has to be made in some way.
Anyway - I had a chat with a couple of people in the village yesterday who were reassuring and appreciative about our policy of closure at the TSG Chapel, and I think staying as integrated as possible with village policy decisions is the only way to move forward - for us anyway, given our location. But we will contribute opinions as much as receive them, as there is a natural limit to all of these socio-political dilemmas and then progress has to be made in some way.
alastairgott
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Mark Wright said:
Hope you revved it really loud if you detoured through Sheffield. 8)
NewStuff
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pwhole said:I'm fine with that - just don't bring 99 mates and go nose to arse at 5mph, thinking all the girls are swooning as they overtake you whilst walking
It's a very particular type of girl that swoons over men in leathers... and you don't generally find them on a wander up Winnats Pass
droid
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Thanks for the tips as to where in the Peak District is packed with motorcycles. I already avoid Matlock Bath like the plague, unless it's a Club ride.
Never understood the need to congregate. Best thing about the Peak is the number of really quiet roads in the middle of nowhere.
Never understood the need to congregate. Best thing about the Peak is the number of really quiet roads in the middle of nowhere.
Mark Wright
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droid said:
I went out to Castleton yesterday lunchtime and had a 2m spaced picnic with 'Born Again Biker' Tim Nixon at the top of the Pin Quarry track. We sat beside the large blocks placed beside the track that are peppered with what look like BCA anchors?
I say 'Born Again', Tim had a Suziki 250 sports bike very briefly in the 80's and nearly killed himself a few times. He never did pass his test and i'm pretty sure it wasn't taxed, tested or insured. He didn't last very long as a 'Biker'.
He finally did his CBT last year and bought a Honda CRF125. He got his full licence soon after and bought my 10 year old BMW G650 XCountry. He's now a 62 year 'Born Again Biker'. What could possibly go wrong?. I bought myself a new CRF 250L.
There were still a few people around but not nearly as many as at the weekend. Midweek is definitely the best time to go for a ride.
Watch out for the cyclists though. One decided to set off in too low a gear and simply fell over right in the middle of the junction at the bottom of the Winnats with cars coming in all directions. He was OK, but It was comical to watch.
I came across a few vans that thought they owned the middle of some of the narrower back roads so keep an eye out on the bends.
The burger van was still in the Peak Hotel car park but I get the impression it might belong to the pub.
Mark
Pete K
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The big one is back!
ACCESS UPDATE 5/7: Access to the inner sections of Peak-Speedwell is now being allowed via either Titan or JH, but there are boundaries. Cavers should not enter the Far Canal either via the (locked) gate or through Troubled Waters, and no access to the Devil's Staircase from Five Arches.
Pete K
On behalf of DCA
ACCESS UPDATE 5/7: Access to the inner sections of Peak-Speedwell is now being allowed via either Titan or JH, but there are boundaries. Cavers should not enter the Far Canal either via the (locked) gate or through Troubled Waters, and no access to the Devil's Staircase from Five Arches.
Pete K
On behalf of DCA
Pete K
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At the time of writing this post, the current list of closed sites are as follows. Please bear in mind this list may go out of date quickly, so check the DCA website before your trip.
Ashford Black Marble Mine
Bagshawe Cavern
Devonshire Mine
Holmebank Chert Mine
All sites on Peakshill Farm (Giant's/Snelslow)
Peak/Speedwell showcaves
DCA are asking the question of the remaining landowners and hope to come back with an update on some or all later this week.
Pete Knight
On behalf of the DCA
Ashford Black Marble Mine
Bagshawe Cavern
Devonshire Mine
Holmebank Chert Mine
All sites on Peakshill Farm (Giant's/Snelslow)
Peak/Speedwell showcaves
DCA are asking the question of the remaining landowners and hope to come back with an update on some or all later this week.
Pete Knight
On behalf of the DCA
The land owner of the area including The Devonshire cavern has asked for a repair to the upper gate.
I was absolutely shocked to see closure notices discarded, thereafter embarrassed and ashamed that SRT competent ( with the proviso of an absent back-up to the y hang at the top of the shaft) cavers No' 4. had been for a jolly!
a polite notice was left for Mike and party.
Both lower and upper entrances will need Derbyshire key within a few days, DCA will notify access soon.
thanks all (bar Mike and party.)
O.G.
I was absolutely shocked to see closure notices discarded, thereafter embarrassed and ashamed that SRT competent ( with the proviso of an absent back-up to the y hang at the top of the shaft) cavers No' 4. had been for a jolly!
a polite notice was left for Mike and party.
Both lower and upper entrances will need Derbyshire key within a few days, DCA will notify access soon.
thanks all (bar Mike and party.)
O.G.
