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Eldon Hole

graham

New member
AR said:
I would have liked to have seen Time team trying to empty Eldon Hole in an archaeologically responsible manner in three days....

Amazing what you can do with a helicopter & a few builders bags.

More seriously, I'd suggest contacting Phil Murphy; though I suspect that if a trench was dug through the rubble, carefully carried out & the sections recorded & if work ceased on anything not rock being found, then you shouldn't have much of a problem. I'm assuming that the landowner would be happy with this & that it's not a site that requires permission from Natural England or English Heritage?
 

AR

Well-known member
graham said:
AR said:
I would have liked to have seen Time team trying to empty Eldon Hole in an archaeologically responsible manner in three days....

Amazing what you can do with a helicopter & a few builders bags.

More seriously, I'd suggest contacting Phil Murphy; though I suspect that if a trench was dug through the rubble, carefully carried out & the sections recorded & if work ceased on anything not rock being found, then you shouldn't have much of a problem. I'm assuming that the landowner would be happy with this & that it's not a site that requires permission from Natural England or English Heritage?

The site is within a SSSI so it'd need NE's okay to dig anything (plus I expect they'd consult PDNPA and EH), I believe the landowner is Chatsworth but it's tenanted. Although my gut feeling is that there would be a significant layer of post-medieval thrown-in walling stones and dumped carcasses to go through before hitting anything votive, that's only a gut feeling and it really needs someone with sufficient experience of digging this type of site to advise.
 

cavermark

New member
Was it PB Smith that used to say:
"ee, if I won lottery, I'd get some doleys to fill skips down Eldon hole and empty the whole f**kin' thing"

 

Pipster

Member
cavermark said:
Was it PB Smith that used to say:
"ee, if I won lottery, I'd get some doleys to fill skips down Eldon hole and empty the whole f**kin' thing"

There must be loads of us who said that...  :)

Pipster said:
Big Jim said:
If I win daft money on the lottery my first big spend is on cranes n shit to empty it.

Thats exactly what I've said I do too!

We need an "Eldon Hole Lotto Syndicate". Get a couple of hundred people to subscribe every week and when (if) we win big we'll have the man power too.

Similiar thread here btw...
http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=10330.msg134998

PS. I'd be up for helping to dig a way through...
 

pwhole

Well-known member
Sounds like a good summer project. One thing that would be really useful in doing this would be to guarantee all-year-round access no matter what the weather with some kind of roof to the connection entrance - so if large-dia pipe were used, an undercut section at an angle would prevent snow plugging and also afford some protection from debris falling from above. Cutting the other end upside-down to this would equally allow easy ingress and egress, especially for rescues, as the angle of pipe would need to be quite shallow.

Could this be a DCA-assisted conservation project on the cards? ;)
 

alastairgott

Well-known member
We need a man who can build a trainline with 70mph petrol driven (homemade) trains from the entrance to get rid of the spoil...

Then it's just a case of time, a winch and some skips when you need them.


And get him out of welsh slate mines rebuilding miners cottages.
 

bograt

Active member
If the negotiations with the landowner are done right I suspect he will be glad of a few tons of reclaimed walling stone, he might even cart it from the top of the hole.
 

pwhole

Well-known member
Bugger. Well, I guess that only goes to show the need for a lidded passage through, eh?
 
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