Entrance has moved on survey

[woollydigger]

Some how after moving my files to a new laptop, somehow my survey data thinks the cave entrance is in the middle cave the file name is acting as the entrance so the depth bar not right( i.e distance from entrance ). my kml file on google earth is in the same place but the entrance pin has moved. is there anyway of changing the file name back the entrance station i have been using compass editor for the survey any help would great or i would have to redo the whole survey.

 

[woollydigger]

problem found somehow when doing the kml file for google earth another GPS marker (for the same cave) defaulted as the entrance and not the true entrance, a file error been found but compass editor fix it so got redo the whole survey.

 

[ChrisB]

It may be fixable - kml files can be edited in a text editor, so you just have to look at some other files and see how they're structured then edit the file with the error in it.

 

[andrew]

problem found somehow when doing the kml file for google earth another GPS marker (for the same cave) defaulted as the entrance and not the true entrance, a file error been found but compass editor fix it so got redo the whole survey.

I'm confused, isn't it just data? Which can be edited. If we could look at the files it's likely that it can be fixed. Most survey data is editable, although compass I've found one of the hardest.
What do you mean by redo the whole survey? To me that would involve going underground.

This is a good opportunity to promote (drone on about) the Cave Registry Data Archive
This would give you a backup and an easy way to share between computers. The data can be completely secret all the way to totally open, but most people choose something in between. It vastly reduces the chance of lost or corrupted data and archives it for the future while providing a brilliant tool for collaborating.

 

[woollydigger]

I'm confused, isn't it just data? Which can be edited. If we could look at the files it's likely that it can be fixed. Most survey data is editable, although compass I've found one of the hardest.
What do you mean by redo the whole survey? To me that would involve going underground.

This is a good opportunity to promote (drone on about) the Cave Registry Data Archive
This would give you a backup and an easy way to share between computers. The data can be completely secret all the way to totally open, but most people choose something in between. It vastly reduces the chance of lost or corrupted data and archives it for the future while providing a brilliant tool for collaborating.

thanks for the reply when I first did the survey the I only done the GPS location on paper not into the software ( didn't know how to at the time ) everything was correct. But when I done the kml file for google earth and put in the GPS location into software I think the auto fill the survey declination and correction didn't work because all the survey data had already there and messed up where the cave entrance is. so my thinking is redo the whole survey data by entering the GPS location along with all the survey data and let the software do the declination hopefully this will fix the bug

 

[ChrisB]

my thinking is redo the whole survey data

So your plan is to re-enter the survey data, with the entrance location added when the software expects it? That's reasonable. It sounded as if you were planned to go and resurvey the cave.

 

[andrew]

I still think that you should be able to use the node editor (I don't really use compass) to fix the station again.
It appears from The web site https://fountainware.com/compass/ that compass has gone to a more text based .dat file than it use to type it in again. Or maybe you are stay you now only have the plt file.
Loss of survey data is so common compass added a utility to recover data from plt files, its been a few years since I used it, but as far as I remember it worked well enough.
Another good reason to store data in the Cave Registry Data Archive
(Have I mentioned that before )

 

[woollydigger]

So your plan is to re-enter the survey data, with the entrance location added when the software expects it? That's reasonable. It sounded as if you were planned to go and resurvey the cave.

yes my plan is to re-enter the data redone the GPS location Thursday and going to check again Tomorrow to check if the pin drops in the same location i've got to enter it in U.T.M format. Then let the software auto fill the declination. I know it did sounded like i planned to resurvey the cave ( all the data is good but messed up when putting in the location) but i really don't want to resurvey cave done half the survey solo doing 30 plus hour trips. I need to get the correct depth right so i can bypass the choke which very unsafe and need to know if I need to be tie in when digging the floor out of the bypass in the chamber.