• The Derbyshire Caver, No. 158

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Goyden/Frog/New Goyden

Does anybody else think that there is a lot more water flowing in the streamway intersected by the  Aquamole Series / Frog Pot than the trickle which enters the New Stream Sump in Goyden? Have observed both in dry conditions (today when New Stream would have been doubled by having a slash and last year at a similar date when the static sump in Aquamole/Frog was wide open albeit after a bit of gravel moving which did not impact much on the flow in the supposed 'New Stream').
Has New Stream been tested to the Aquamole/Frog stream?
Has the water from the Aquamole/Frog streamway been tested to Main Inlet (or indeed Hardy Pools Passage) in New Goyden?
Also, having done a nice tour of Goyden today, Pillar Pot Sump really is amazingly blue and clear (just like the sumps in Friday 13th in PyG) and I can see why RJS dived the Old Year Inlet Sump 30 years ago. Is the syphon tube making any impact on draining this?
Where are the 'wallows' on the way to Telegraph Aven? I followed a bone dry muddy passage to an awkward squeeze which I did not attempt as I thought I'd gone the wrong way as I was expecting squalor.
Highlight of today's tour however was wandering around in the roof of the Main River Passage having emerged from Nugatory Passage (an obscure Goyden gem) via Mud Hall.

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Goydenman

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Interesting got me wondering. The stream in Frog is actually three streams that have joined together dont forget 1. New Stream water 2. Stream from North Choke via 30m sump and small stream entering Frog pot that joins the 30m sump half way along but having said that always thought there still seems to be a lot of water coming from the lake upstream of the 30m sump may be inlets joining like the sink round the back of the farm. No a dye test has not been done to confirm it is the New Stream water. Link to main stream inlet is so close and lots of wood washed through regularly but again not actually been dye tested. As for Hardy Pools I really want to know where that is in relation to Frog downstream sump and main inlet, we plan to resurvey with Distox....sometime and get more accurate fix. Dye that was placed in Old New Goyden entrance now just sink in boulders reappeared in both Hardy Pools and also Dry wath inlet. I have a feeling that a really small stream entering at the end of the Dry Wath series in a vein area may be the one that enters the chamber beyond the freedivable sump in Hardy Pools.

The wallows dry out in the summer. The squeeze you reached is very close to the aven.
Glad you liked Nurgatory and yes great being in the roof of the stream passage - we linked Nurgatory wityh Mud Hall and also sorted out the roof traverse from third window to nearly opposite Gaskils. Have you done Beet route passage above High rift I love it the black chert with grey walls and climb after climb down to the sump fab.
 
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