• The Derbyshire Caver, No. 158

    The latest issue is finally complete and printed

    Subscribers should have received their issue in the post - please let us know if you haven't. For everyone else, the online version is now available for free download:

    Click here for download link

Hallowe'en events in Dan-yr-Ogof, 26-31st October

Tony_B

Member
Just when you thought that turning out the lights and ignoring the doorbell on 31st October was enough to avoid the dreaded Hallowe'en, now it's going to disrupt your caving too - if you want to go into Dan-yr-Ogof.

The DYO company livens up half-term by running some Hallowe'en events, and as part of this they use a smoke machine in the chamber at the end of the showcave, just below the gate you climb over to get to the lakes. The inevitable consequence of this is that the draught takes the smoke into the 'wild' part of the cave and, after a while, the visibility is reduced to almost zero. Last year a party got caught out by this and had a real problem finding their way out of Boulder Chamber and the lakes.

You might think that you know that bit of the cave like the back of your hand, but caving in almost-zero vis is disorienting and if you (literally) can't see where you are putting your feet you are likely to have an accident. Cavers are politely asked to avoid DYO on the above dates.

One more thing; before you start coming on here and complaining about this, please be aware that the relationship between cavers and the showcave management is currently rather delicate. There are some imminent changes to the DYO Cave Advisory Committee, which will be explained on UKC in due course (but which won't directly affect DYO Wardens or cavers). Nonetheless a rescue or an incident caused by cavers ignoring the above advice would be very harmful.

And please also bear in mind that showcave owners have internet access too...

Many thanks
Tony Baker
Wardens' Sec, DYO Cave Advisory Committee.
 

jonj

New member
Ashford has no access to this forum and I have been asked to post his reply to the comments below

""
I am very concerned that the wrong impression might have been unintentionally created by Tony?s posting. Firstly the present access arrangements for our Warden system will be unchanged when the proposed new panel system comes into force on November 10.

The new panel will consist of experienced cavers who will take over all matters relating to access and conservation of the system beyond the show cave. The panel will also include representatives from Natural Resources Wales and the Brecon Beacons National Park. As Chairman of the DYO cave company I will also sit on the panel. 

This panel will have a direct input to my board should occasions arise where this is necessary.

In reply to the Wardens that have contacted me regarding the posting on the UK caving, I reiterate that there are no changes to the access arrangements and cavers will continue to be made welcome.

I will make arrangements after Nov 10 for the Secretary to notify all Wardens who the panel members are.

Ashford
""








 
Top