If i go through, will i get back??

[Stupot]

How about a long straw and a good set of lungs, you know like that game with Maltesers (or is that just me).

Stu.

 

[cap n chris]

You never know, it MIGHT just work....

 

[andymorgan]

Anyone been through Hellish Tight in goatchurch in Mendip?

I tried once and got stuck! I was making steady progress with one arm stretched out in front and the other by my side. As I passed over the pot I put my leading arm down the pot the give myself a push on the edge of it, and as i progressed over it my arm ended up being by my side. I realised that I needed it in front of me so tried to move it in front of me and I don't know if I moved forward at the same time as well, but I ended up becoming completely wedged with one arm by my side and the other bent up underneath me. I thrashed around for a while not being able to go forward or back and wondered about the embarassment of being rescued from Goatchurch. Once I relaxed though I was able to wriggle my toes to drag myself back out. My friend who had already made it through had to go in a second time to retrieve my helmet that I was pushing in front of me!

I have heard that cave rescue use KYjelly to free stuck people. I know if I had a bearded man behind me with a tub of KYjelly when I was stuck, I would certainly be able to free myself! :shock:

 

[cap n chris]

They don't use KY for rescues, just beforehand and immediately afterwards, apparently. Must be true, Andy S told me.

 

[Dave H]

I have heard that cave rescue use KYjelly to free stuck people.

Removing clothing is one way, and apparently washing up liquid is very good for rock to skin lubrication.
The CRO 50'th Dinner was interrupted when they had to rescue one of their members (C olin B oothroyd?) who was stuck in a squeeze with just a pair of stolen Y-fronts on! They used the washing up liquid trick on him.

 

[Rob]

Anyone been through Helish Tight in goatchurch in Mendip?

Mmmm, sounds good.

Was quite a squeeze but manage to pop out the otherside which unfortuneatly was a drop down.

Good god! What was her name again?

 

[caverholic]

You know the saying poke it till it chokes!

Twasn't actually there though rob, I would like to see someone try in helish.

Lets not lower the tone of this thread as well!

 

[chriscastle46]

I once got through Hellish Tight a great many years ago, hard to believe now. I remember needing help getting down the drop beyond and not feeling too good for several days afterwards. Sadly, I have become too hunky to repeat the move, and anyway isostatic recovery has caused the squeeze to close up somewhat, a common phenomonem of many caves.

 

[Hughie]

Too many pies, Chris?

 

[cap n chris]

Pies!?, who mentioned pies!! Mmmmmm.... and lard; don't forget the lard....

 

[chriscastle46]

Hugh, it's nothing to do with pies,as you know full well. The atmosphere is becoming richer in methane, making it heavier so that the caves are being squeezed, making some parts tighter. And where does this methane come from? Your bloody cows, that's where!

I led a trip for the good old ACG to the end of Cuthberts last night, and found another example - the Stal Barrier, just before the 10 ft Drop, for those who know the cave. It's closed up by a good centimetre. I'm not sure this process is fully understood - could be a PhD in it for someone.

 

[Ant]

Stu you are just not approaching it right. If you look at how you approached the sumps then you will find the way!!

 

[cucc Paul]

isostatic movement due to the melting of the ice after the ice age must have a bigger impact than a bit of methane i would have thought...

I got my head stuck in a downward squeezy bit down priddy green had to have a leggy up so i could get my helmet off and then pass down... was quite funny at the time. If i didnt have a leggy it wouyldnt have been though...

Paul

 

[chriscastle46]

(Sigh) It was meant as a joke.[/quote]

 

[AndyF]

I've had recent experience of this. I'm normally averse to things tight, but the lure of passages new overcomes it, usually.....

I pushed a squeeze in Waterways, now called the "Tourist Trap". It was a nice smooth bit of flowstone floored tube, but at a certain point, your ribcage pops down over the lip of a gour dam, and you are "commited". The way on was reasonable size, and fortunatly I could get out from the far side by an abseil with a rope tied to some nice calcited rubble

Return through the squeeze was impossible for me....

Far worse are the stories of blind free dives, eg Swildons 1, but then they were 'ard in them days.... or the exploration of the Milwr tunnel. Several miles solo on an inflattable li-lo in fast flowing water to a possible exit...or possible blockage....or possible bad-air

 

[cucc Paul]

Sorry im not doing a geography degree honest....

 

[cucc Paul]

Free dives when you cant see a thing are great... theyre the highlight of all caving trips...