James Puttrell

[pwhole]

I couldn't resist it - I did some 'treatment' on it and enlarged it. I think you're right about it being John Mort as I don't recognise him! Cropped photo of George Eagle below it (I have my reasons!).

 

[A_Northerner]

The old name for Treak Cliff was 'Tray Cliff', which I think is the answer to that puzzle.

When I was a child visiting Castleton I always imagined that Treak Cliff was where they mined treacle, so thank you for ruining my childhood with that etymological lesson 

 

[Mrs Trellis]

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2843754?seq=1

 

[mikem]

https://www.britishfoodhistory.com/2012/04/01/the-treacle-mines-of-england/

 

[pwhole]

Abandoned treacle mine (molassite) - in Derbyshire. He clearly didn't research enough

 

[Goydenman]

When I was a child visiting Castleton I always imagined that Treak Cliff was where they mined treacle, so thank you for ruining my childhood with that etymological lesson 

I was once tagging along with Trevor Ford who leading a geological field trip at Castleton visiting a site with Elaterite. It is a bitumen soft and pliable (like treacle sort of) brownish. He pointed out a student who was pulling at it, scratching it and tasting it (as geologists do). We neither felt strong enough to point out to her it was actually sheep dung she had picked up. Sorry to go off topic but could not resist

 

[Brains]

When I was a child visiting Castleton I always imagined that Treak Cliff was where they mined treacle, so thank you for ruining my childhood with that etymological lesson 

I was once tagging along with Trevor Ford who leading a geological field trip at Castleton visiting a site with Elaterite. It is a bitumen soft and pliable (like treacle sort of) brownish. He pointed out a student who was pulling at it, scratching it and tasting it (as geologists do). We neither felt strong enough to point out to her it was actually sheep dung she had picked up. Sorry to go off topic but could not resist

Elaterite is extremely carcinogenic, being an organic cocktail of nasties... Wouldnt want to touch it with bare hands, never mind taste it! Treacle however is a different thing altogether

 

[AR]

Looking at the Greaves Croft photo again, it isn't a handshake going on, it's passing over of a lump of ore as part of the title gifting.

 

[alastairgott]

so thank you for ruining my childhood with that etymological lesson 

I'm reading Bill Bryson's "mother Tongue" at the moment, so now I know that Peak Forest actually was never named because it was covered in Trees, but because Forest was the word for the Royal Hunting grounds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_forest

 

[mikem]

Yep, same with the Mendip forest (& probably several others, although quite a lot of it happened to be covered with trees at the time)

 

[Mrs Trellis]

Looking at the Greaves Croft photo again, it isn't a handshake going on, it's passing over of a lump of ore as part of the title gifting.

Yes - Phil's enhancement nakes it much clearer. The bloke on the right is receiving the ore - so is he the new owner or an official?

 

[AR]

The new owner, IIRC how gifting was carried out.