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Llethrid Swallet Trip Report

Andy Sparrow

Active member
Llethrid Swallet

9th July 2005

Andy S, Mel, Ken, Dani, Andy P, Andy M, Liz F, Steve L, Robin, Barry, and many others!

Mel and I called in on Thursday to see the owners of the cave and were given a very friendly and obliging reception. They were quite keen for us to get some photos of the cave as it is included in their current property sale. Yes, all this could be yours – a 7 bed farmhouse, holiday cottage complex and Gower’s finest cave – all for a mere 1.2 million!

On the morning of the trip we eventually managed to get the convoy of cars lined up on the campsite to transport 17 cavers to Llethrid. Arriving at the farm we found copies of the survey pinned to the gate while the owners were busy strimming a path for us. My most uncomfortable moment of the day came shortly after, when the lady of the house came to greet us. While I engaged her in conversation I could see from the corner of my eye a bollock naked Ken oblivious to her presence. I kept the conversation stuttering on and her attention firmly fixed on me while an unhurried Mr Passant eventually pulled up his furry suit at a glacial speed.

The path to the cave being not yet complete we were ushered, all 17 of us, through the open plan kitchen and onto the road through a convenient caver-size hatch. Eventually we tramped and thrashed our way through the undergrowth to find the Swallet. Welsh caves, of course, are not generally called swallets, but it was Mendip cavers who first explored and named this cave back in the 1950s.
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It is apparent right from the entrance how hyper-floodable this cave is. The catchment is enormous and the stream borders on ‘river’ size, though on this dry and sunny day only a trickle spilled into the entrance pit. We completely failed to notice the gated entrance just above the swallet and followed the open hole down between boulders and rotting vegetation. We wormed our way between dark grey Eastwater type boulders until we met the stream. Every crevice was jammed with twigs and the floor strewn with rotting debris. The passage was a bit awkward but there were no real constrictions and we soon reached a short duck which was pleasantly cooling and easily passed. Beyond, the cave enlarged a bit but progress was still interrupted by fallen boulders creating wriggles and climbs. The rock is very dark, steeply dipping and scalloped while the floor is a carpet of gravel and rotting twigs.

Eventually we emerged into a chamber where an old knotted rope led up a steep mud bank. A certain amount of pushing and pulling was necessary to get everyone up the greasy incline and into the more spacious chamber above. Squeals of awe and delight echoed in a large void somewhere ahead. We crawled through a short constriction to emerge into The Great Hall of Llethrid. This is a huge chamber boasting some very spectacular formations. The centre-piece is an enormous fluted stal surrounded by spectacular and colourful curtains. I did my best to take the requested photos but the excess of steamy bodies caused a lot of fogging so some shots using available light were attempted, although not very successfully.

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Rather appropriately for a ‘swallet’ it’s a very Mendip type of chamber with its steep boulder slope, pitched roof and abundant colourfully banded curtains. The glutinous mud flooring the lower half of the Hall indicates a level of flooding that completely submerges every other passage in the cave. This is not the place to be on a rainy day.

We found another way down avoiding the tatty old rope and made our way out, progressing quite efficiently for such a large party. I got the best photo of the day when Mel posed in the duck for me with very little complaint about either the temperature or the far from salubrious aroma of the water.

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We emerged after a two hour trip to find a freshly strimmed path leading back from the cave entrance. We all had a good old chat with the owners as we got changed, who even offered to provide the 17 of us with hot or cold drinks! Whoever takes on ownership of this cave has a hard act to follow! We downloaded the pictures onto their computer ready for inclusion in the property pages of The Observer Magazine and made tentative plans to give them a trip down the cave in the near future.
 
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andymorgan

Guest
It was great weekend: those who didn't go really missed out. The trip was absolutely cracking, and the weather was superb (I have a quite a tan now!).
Thanks Mel and Andy for organising the weekend!
 

Dani

New member
I agree, fantastic weekend guys, thanks for organising it, I especially liked the way your arranged the nice weather - do you do weddings and bar mitzvahs?

I guess one of us who actually made it to the other cave ought to write a trip report :LOL: (although as I can't even remember what it was called, I'm not sure I'm the best person! :roll: )
 

Andy Sparrow

Active member
I guess one of us who actually made it to the other cave ought to write a trip report (although as I can't even remember what it was called, I'm not sure I'm the best person!

Ogof Wyntog. No excuses now!
 
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andymorgan

Guest
Dani said:
I guess one of us who actually made it to the other cave

Perhaps those who didn't find it should read the section in 'The Complete Caving Manual' about locating the cave entrance :LOL:
 
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Ken Passant

Guest
Yes it was a very nice weekend, and Lethrid was bloody good fun with 17 other cavers!

The rock climbing with Andy P could have taken up the whole weekend, it was so good, on fantastic rock.

(And I got a all over body tan)
 
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Melanie lloyd

Guest
I guess one of us who actually made it to the other cave ought to write a trip report

Perhaps those who didn't find it should read the section in 'The Complete Caving Manual' about locating the cave entrance


OOOOHH! You lot really know how to kick a man when he's down.. and running round the cliffs, arms flapping like some demented sweating lunatic, wading valiantly, crotch deep through bollock shrinking water in a frantic, desparate attempt to find a hole....any hole. (and call it Ogof Wintog) And all this with his pissed off girlfriends voice ringing in his ears ' I'ts in the other cove Andy, for Christ's sake love, no ones following us.............' HMMPH. the man deserves a medal not scorn.

Honestly, It didn't matter to us at all that you lot had happily found and done the cave and were now gleefully splashing about in the almost turquoise blue medetaranian waters when we ( he ) eventually realised he'd got it WRONG.....Still, the extra couple of miles we walked in the seering heat were.....interesting!
 
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andymorgan

Guest
To be fair we all sat within 3 metres of the entrance without noticing it! It was only Dani or Steve who noticed it.

Melanie lloyd said:
girlfriends voice ringing in his ears ' I'ts in the other cove Andy, for Christ's sake love, no ones following us.............']

Mel didn't you say it was in the other cove when we were in the correct one as well?
 
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Melanie lloyd

Guest
Mel didn't you say it was in the other cove when we were in the correct one as well?


SHHHHH...you can go off people you know! :oops:


By the way Andy M How about doing a trip report for Wintog ? ( If you don't, I'll never buy you another ice cream again)
 
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andymorgan

Guest
Ok, to say thanks to Mel for the ice ream here is the

Ogof Wyntog Trip Report

After a few delays (which had nothing to do with me :oops: ) we eventually left the campsite and drove off towards Rhosili. We parked up at a small village which I can't recall the name, and after the usual cavers faff of sorting out kit we started the walk to the cave.
We met Robin, Barry, Barry's daughter, and Danny and sons on the way who left the campsite long before us and were invstigating a tiny cave in the side of the valley. It was a very hot day and was getting a bit too much once we started going up and down the cliff path to the cave. We had a welcome and amusing five minute break while we waited for what seemed like one thousand sheep to make their way along the cliff path to a nearby field.
We headed on down a cove where the cave was supposed to be located, although Mel wasn't too convinced and thought it was in the neighbouring cove, but she followed everyone down. After a slight scramble along a crumbing and steep path we were all down into the cove. After a check of the guide book description and grid references Andy S announced that this was the right place and the cave entrance in front of us was indeed Ogof Wyntog. Andy got kitted up and entered the cave soon returning saying it wasn't the cave but an 'excellent dig site' A few of us had a scount around looking for the entrance while some others decided that the cave wasn't in this cove but perhaps the next one. Just after they left Steve or Dani (who was it) announced that they thought they had found our cave, but the others were too far away to hear us call!
Dani went in and came back out and said this must definitely be it, so everybody got kitted up. I was a bit slow and Dani had already done the 'through trip' by the time i had got changed and was about to have a second trip :?
The cave starts as a crawl which opens up into a passage quickly leading to a chamber. There was quite a crowd in here: Robin, Barry, Liz, Barry's daughter and partner, Dani, Mark and Steve (and maybe some others i missed) and we took a few snaps which i'm sure we will see soon. There were two ways on from this chamber up was a short passage to a dig site and down led to small climb down to a sea cave and the exit on the beach. To be honest this wasn't much of a cave, little more than a long rock shelter. To those who didn't go into the cave actually you missed huge caverns, magnificant formations, treasure etc! :wink:
After most people cooled off with a swim in the sea!
 

Glenn

Member
There were two ways on from this chamber up was a short passage to a dig site and down led to small climb down to a sea cave and the exit on the beach.

Peter Chislett and myself started this dig sometime in 1964, although many others have had a go over the years and I think Mel Davies identified and dated some animal bones found in there, probably about 20 years ago. How far does it extend now?

As you climb up the slope and turn right into the dig, on the left hand wall is an inscription to the memory of Ned Cunnington, who died in the "Great War" (WWI) and was the first person to enter the cave. An article was published in the South Wales Evening Post "Strange Find In A Gower Cave" in (I think) April 1964 - I'll need to look up the exact date, describing the inscription and Kieth Jones has written a more recent account of the cave in the British Caver, although I don't have the reference to hand at the moment.

Of more interest is the resurgence just below the climb up to the Wyntog entrance, (probably dry when you visited the cave) which has been pushed for a long way, and although I have yet to go there myself, sounds very interesting. When we first visited Wyntog (in the winter of 1963) water sometimes flowed in the little chamber after the entrance crawl, which could be an overflow from the resurgence cave, and if so shows that there is still more cave to be found...

Cheers,

Glenn

PS I have some pictures of Llethrid that I will put up here when I get around to it.
 
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andymorgan

Guest
Yes, thanks for info as well. The digs in Wyntog didn't go that far probably about 2-3metres if I recall correctly (perhaps Dani can confirm/deny this, or if any of you can talk to Robin G and Barry who had a good look at the site).
It didn't look like anyone had been digging there recently: there was little spoil and no digging implements apart from interestingly a small miners cart.
Is the resurgence entrance below the entrance on the beach or the entrance further up? There was a small spring below the lower (beach entrance but there was no passable passage associated with it.

Looking on the net I found this website about the caves of gower I think this resurgence cave is Ogof Ffynnon Wyntog. Speaking to someone at the pub they said it extends for a kilometre, but I had a lot of beer and may have got this wrong :oops:
 

Glenn

Member
Yes, thanks for info as well. The digs in Wyntog didn't go that far probably about 2-3metres if I recall correctly (perhaps Dani can confirm/deny this, or if any of you can talk to Robin G and Barry who had a good look at the site).


It was that long when we were digging there, it must longer than that, 'cos several groups have had a go over the years. It must be close to Rhossilli by now :)

It didn't look like anyone had been digging there recently: there was little spoil and no digging implements apart from interestingly a small miners cart.

(Anyone know Trevor Morris?) I guess there's better prospects in the resurgence.

Is the resurgence entrance below the entrance on the beach or the entrance further up? There was a small spring below the lower (beach entrance but there was no passable passage associated with it.

As you scramble down the scree from the hanging valley, with the Knave directly in front of you, you bear right (west) onto a raised platform, above the sea. As you make your way towards the climb up to the Wyntog entrance, there is a small overhanging entrance in a corner, with an obvious water course leading from it.


Looking on the net I found this website about the caves of gower I think this resurgence cave is Ogof Ffynnon Wyntog. Speaking to someone at the pub they said it extends for a kilometre, but I had a lot of beer and may have got this wrong

Yes, that's right. And is does indeed extend a long way, and is not finished yet. If anyone is in touch with Huw Thomas (ex-SWCC) he knows who was/is working here, but I've lost touch with Huw these last years.

Allegedly, there's a higher entrance, immediately above the raised platform, you can see the recess. We dug there briefly in the '60's, but got nowhere due to angry sea gulls. (But then we got nowhere with our digs elsewhere on Gower either...)

Cheers,

Glenn
 
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