'Must Do' caves in the Dales

Madness

New member
Thanks for all the suggestions. That's a hell of a lot to go at!
I think I need to visit the Dales more often.
 

Alex

Well-known member
I think its one of the caves that are actually locked as it connects to a show cave so you will have to arrange ahead of time. I think you need to contact the showcave people to arrange a key, but I am not sure (Only been once and I did not arrange it).
 

Madness

New member
Looking at the suggestions I'm surprised at just how many need a pre-arranged permit (about 50%). Being used to caving in the Peak I'm more used to just turning up and doing it. Having to sort permits is just a faff, especially when you and your caving partners are not in any clubs and not individual members of the BCA.
 

Brains

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The entrances at Mongo gill are open, and the connection to Stump Cross is sealed. I believe it is a CNCC permit trip, but Northern caves1 is quite old now, but the CNCC is not http://cncc.org.uk/about/access-agreements.php - scroll down to Mongo Gill. It MIGHT be on access land and therefore may be one of those subject to CRoW clarification?
 

Simon Wilson

New member
Madness said:
Looking at the suggestions I'm surprised at just how many need a pre-arranged permit (about 50%). Being used to caving in the Peak I'm more used to just turning up and doing it. Having to sort permits is just a faff, especially when you and your caving partners are not in any clubs and not individual members of the BCA.

The vast majority are on access land and the vast majority of cavers just turn up and do it. Join the crowd and be part of the solution not part of the problem.
 

Alex

Well-known member
Looking at the suggestions I'm surprised at just how many need a pre-arranged permit (about 50%). Being used to caving in the Peak I'm more used to just turning up and doing it. Having to sort permits is just a faff, especially when you and your caving partners are not in any clubs and not individual members of the BCA.

Yeh that's why we campaign for CRoW up here, its mainly southerns in a different situation that don't
 

alastairgott

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Madness said:
Looking at the suggestions I'm surprised at just how many need a pre-arranged permit (about 50%). Being used to caving in the Peak I'm more used to just turning up and doing it. Having to sort permits is just a faff, especially when you and your caving partners are not in any clubs and not individual members of the BCA.

You could always join Alex and the clan in the Black Rose ^ I'm sure they would have you. they seem to do lots in the dales but have not done a lot in the peak, so they could badger you for some trips in peak and you could apply for some permits in their name for Yorkshire.
You might need to join them though ?15 for membership and ?17 for Insurance. ?32 for some caving in Yorkshire (that's equivalent to 2 trips into peak cavern, 3 trips into giants and a scattering of trips into Oxlow, Maskhill, Nettle and P8).
I think there were more than 9 Trip suggestions above, so it might be worth it just for a year?  ;)

or you could always join us in Castleton...

As an aside, which club offers the cheapest membership costs?
 

Madness

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I'm not anti-club, but I don't see why I should need to join one to be able to visit certain caves. I've not been in a climbing club for 25 years but I can still climb on any crags where climbing is not banned. Nor does any crag owner insist that I have Public Liability Insurance.
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
Madness said:
I'm not anti-club, but I don't see why I should need to join one to be able to visit certain caves.

Because although your calendar will tell you it's 2016, it's actually really 1986.
 

andrewmcleod

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Madness said:
Nor does any crag owner insist that I have Public Liability Insurance.

being the pedantic type I have to point out Cheddar Gorge, South side requires insurance (landowners the Cheddar Gorge company, and this is enforced by both the company and local climbers), but definitely the exception that proves the rule...
 
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