Natural Well 25.3.2012

Amy

New member
LOL yeah this is the American south...Things you will find in a cave/on the way hiking to a cave:

Rattlers, copperheads..copperheads in particular can be rather aggressive...would NOT want to step over around or near one hah! And then the spiders, brown recluse and black widows most common poisonous ones. Not to mention the pesky things like chiggers (make you itch to the high heavens) and ticks (ew ew ew, best case find them before biting in, worst case find them after and it was a dear tick and need to worry about lyme disease).

But lots of cool wildlife too...lots of bats of various species (tricolours, little brown, big brown, gray, etc etc), cave adapted crawfish, various salamander species some very brightly coloured. :D

Mainly I run into ticks and copperheads though, Copperheads live in and around rocky areas so if you have a rocky spot there are copperheads around. Carry a walking stick to poke ahead of you so you dont step on one traipsing in the woods :p in-cave only an issue near the entrances (they'll sit and try and catch bats flying out and such) and in open-air pits that they somehow make their way or fall into and then just live there.

When rappelling one of the jobs of the first one down (besides the standard making sure rope reaches the bottom and then untying the stopper knots and padding any areas that are needed to stop rope rub) is to check for snakes!
 

Joe90

Member
From what I understand here its not the venom of the brown recluse (violin spider) that will cause you grief but the necrosis you can get from it. But really they aren't aggressive things. Nor are the black widows here, not sure about in the states.
 

Fulk

Well-known member
Joe90:
From what I understand here its not the venom of the brown recluse (violin spider) that will cause you grief but the necrosis you can get from it.

I guess that, if you get bitten, that's a bit of an academic difference. :LOL: :LOL:
 

Joe90

Member
Depends if you look at what will hurt you straight away or in a few days time...... The brown recluse you have here you generally don't even notice you've been bitten for a while. Well that's the same with many spiders. Especially this one here though.
 

Amy

New member
LOL you'd know...feeling like you are being stabbed is kinda a clue :p Swelling and necrosis starts happening within hours usually.
 

Joe90

Member
Sorry didn't mean to seem blunt earlier I was running out for work haha.
I only say this because last year my boss got bitten on the leg by one when she was asleep in her sleeping bag and didn't notice it till the next day when it was obvious. Up in the mountains and a long way from hospital it got pretty bad before she could get it treated and the necrosis was pretty bad by the time treatment was available. Amputation at the knee was considered. Fortunately it was saved and not necessary.
Yours may be different, of course.
I was under the impression with most spiders you generally don't notice the bite until much later on.
 
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