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New Harness?

mr conners

Member
After going down Titan on Sunday and then, whilst washing my harness at home on the evening, finding I can rip the webbing with my bare hands i think its time for a new one.
Any suggestions?
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
Petzl Fractio, Superavanti or Falcon
AV Tecnibat, Tecnirapid
MTDE Amazonia, Club, Picos, Varonia,
Singing Rock Digger
Prolly loads more too....

S'your choice. Your budget will determine your range of options, obviously.
 

Burt

New member
mr conners said:
After going down Titan on Sunday and then, whilst washing my harness at home on the evening, finding I can rip the webbing with my bare hands i think its time for a new one.
Any suggestions?

check it more often! :eek:
 

Amy

New member
On Rope 1 makes the Goliath and Goliath Fully Padded harnesses, I love them both, and both are made special for frogging with a realllllly low attachment point (seriously the halfround is down at my pubic bone!) I also am larger/have hips and its the only one Ive found so far that is really comfy and sits well on me.
 

Benfool

Active member
Bernies selling the singing rock for ?46, but I personally think its crap so I wouldn't bother. Much better is the MTDE club harness from Mr Seddon for ?41 - about as comfy as the digger, but is much more adjustable! Or spash out and get a MTDE picos, now thats a good harness......

B
 

Cave_Troll

Active member
mr conners said:
I can rip the webbing with my bare hands i think its time for a new one.
Any suggestions?

This suggests contamination of the fabric by something.
Even very old nylon does not rip that easily.
 

paul

Moderator
Try before you buy is always a good bet with harnesses (and some other gear whcih is worn). What may sound a good bargain may not be so good if you it doesn't fit you well or you don't find it comfortable...

See if you can visit a caving gear shop and try some on while hanging from a piece of rope.
 

Amy

New member
^^^best advice so far

If I can add too - if you can climb like 30-40 ft in it too, that tells you even more IMPO. I tried a few harnesses that just hanging in felt fine, but they werent good somehow with climbing, either the croll just wasnt sitting well with it so it wasnt moving up well with how my body shape is, or it was uncomfortable on my legs or something like that.

If you live too far from a cave shop, maybe next time you are with cavebuddies ask them to borrow their seat harness and just run rope with it a bit and see how you like it.
 

Chocolate fireguard

Active member
I have had a Singing Rock Digger for about 5 years and  can`t find fault with the value. Too many trips along Colostomy Crawl have shredded the outside of the left leg loop (for some reason I always crawl on my left side) so I bought a MTDE Picos from Starless River. I only use it for best!
It`s the most I have paid for a harness but it`s the best I have had.
It took some adjusting, as Tony Seddon told me it would do, mainly the bum strap needs to have more slack in it than I expected and the short lengths of web holding the bum strap to the leg loops need positioning properly so the bum strap is actually under your bum, but once that is all sorted it is outstandingly comfortable and the very low attachment point means you gain a lot with each step.
I nearly said I now fly up the rope, but that would be silly at my age - the last birthday I celebrated was my fortieth.
 

Chocolate fireguard

Active member
I think forty is a great age to be. Experienced enough to know what matters but still young enough to be open to new ideas and fit enough to try them out. Caving-wise of course.
 

jarvist

New member
Cave_Troll said:
mr conners said:
I can rip the webbing with my bare hands i think its time for a new one.
Any suggestions?
This suggests contamination of the fabric by something.
Even very old nylon does not rip that easily.

I'd imagine degradation by UV is the most likely possibility. Nylon really is very susceptible, they put clever free-radical scavengers in it these days (which probably get washed out by caving!), but it's never going to be as resistant as PET / UHMWPE.
 

paul

Moderator
Chocolate fireguard said:
I have had a Singing Rock Digger for about 5 years and  can`t find fault with the value.

I use to have Petzl harnesses then switched to the Singing Rock Digger. I had two of these one after the other (I've been caving for quite a while, I'm not just a harness destroyer!) and then reverted back to Petzl.

Although the Digger is a good value harness (IF it fits you properly...) I found the nylon got very stiff in a fairly short time making it extremeley difficult to adjust, if needed. The Petzl's material seems to remain supple for years making adjustment very easy.
 

Andy Sparrow

Active member
paul said:
Try before you buy is always a good bet with harnesses (and some other gear whcih is worn). What may sound a good bargain may not be so good if you it doesn't fit you well or you don't find it comfortable...

See if you can visit a caving gear shop and try some on while hanging from a piece of rope.

I don't know how many caving shops provide this opportunity.  We certainly do at caveclimb - we have an SRT training area where you can try out a range of products. 
 

Cave_Troll

Active member
jarvist said:
I'd imagine degradation by UV is the most likely possibility. Nylon really is very susceptible,

I was thinking that as well, but while I've seen this in rucksacks that have spent months sat outside people's tents in Spanish sunshine, and slings at the top of sports climbs, I'd be surprised if a harness had been left in enough sunshine to cause this much damage.
 

Fulk

Well-known member
Chocolate fireguard:
I nearly said I now fly up the rope, but that would be silly at my age - the last birthday I celebrated was my fortieth.

The last you celebrated . . . does that mean you've had a few more you didn't celebrate? :)



 
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