Newsletter 37 Out Now
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darren
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If Facebook or Amazon misuse personal data it's national news.
BCA have identified an issue with personal data and decided to minimise it's misuse. This is obviously the correct course of action and in the spirit of GDPR.
We have now had a string of coments saying GDPR should be ignored, emails can easily be deleted or ignored so people shouldn't care if there personal data is misused, and implying only idiots or vexatious people would object.
I'm with the BCA on this, we should keep within the spirit of the law.
BCA have identified an issue with personal data and decided to minimise it's misuse. This is obviously the correct course of action and in the spirit of GDPR.
We have now had a string of coments saying GDPR should be ignored, emails can easily be deleted or ignored so people shouldn't care if there personal data is misused, and implying only idiots or vexatious people would object.
I'm with the BCA on this, we should keep within the spirit of the law.
BCA Chair
Member
It's also worth saying that the large companies are staffed by paid employees with expensive legal advice available etc.
The BCA is staffed mostly by volunteers who are already giving all the hours they possibly can to make British caving better. The future sustainability of this is something I worry about, which is why I am so keen to simplify BCA's processes and procedures for future volunteers.
Currently if one angry person decides to take issue with something the BCA is doing, and instigates a formal complaint, we cannot just ignore this. The amount of additional work a complaint generates for already stressed volunteers is immense. We already have one formal complaint from one of our group members (not related to GDPR) and the amount of volunteer resource this is sapping is high. Therefore I'm keen to avoid stirring up any further complaints that would inevitably result from ignoring the small handful individuals who are objecting to email communication.
Fear not everyone, work is ongoing to make sure we have much nicer shinier systems in due course which will address all the issues above
Furthermore, BCA modernisation is not going to be held back by a minority. But we do need to try to keep as many people on board as possible. This is a difficult balancing act.
Estelle; Speaking as ex-CNCC Secretary, you are right that the CNCC would usually have shared this. The CNCC Facebook page is managed also by a volunteer (my husband), who is also the BCA webmaster, who also does the BCA newsletter formatting, and who is also currently putting in 10-15 hours per week into redeveloping the BCA website and the necessary systems to resolve the above issues. I'm sure you can understand this one social media item getting overlooked due to his current workload. It's great that you have shared this around BEC Facebook.
To anyone reading this... I suspect most organisations would be very excited to have more volunteers to help manage their social media and ensure a more proactive social medial presence is maintained. Better sharing of information/news around our community, and strengthening of relationships between different organisations can only be a good thing.
The BCA is staffed mostly by volunteers who are already giving all the hours they possibly can to make British caving better. The future sustainability of this is something I worry about, which is why I am so keen to simplify BCA's processes and procedures for future volunteers.
Currently if one angry person decides to take issue with something the BCA is doing, and instigates a formal complaint, we cannot just ignore this. The amount of additional work a complaint generates for already stressed volunteers is immense. We already have one formal complaint from one of our group members (not related to GDPR) and the amount of volunteer resource this is sapping is high. Therefore I'm keen to avoid stirring up any further complaints that would inevitably result from ignoring the small handful individuals who are objecting to email communication.
Fear not everyone, work is ongoing to make sure we have much nicer shinier systems in due course which will address all the issues above
Furthermore, BCA modernisation is not going to be held back by a minority. But we do need to try to keep as many people on board as possible. This is a difficult balancing act.
Estelle; Speaking as ex-CNCC Secretary, you are right that the CNCC would usually have shared this. The CNCC Facebook page is managed also by a volunteer (my husband), who is also the BCA webmaster, who also does the BCA newsletter formatting, and who is also currently putting in 10-15 hours per week into redeveloping the BCA website and the necessary systems to resolve the above issues. I'm sure you can understand this one social media item getting overlooked due to his current workload. It's great that you have shared this around BEC Facebook.
To anyone reading this... I suspect most organisations would be very excited to have more volunteers to help manage their social media and ensure a more proactive social medial presence is maintained. Better sharing of information/news around our community, and strengthening of relationships between different organisations can only be a good thing.
It wasn't meant as a dig, more as humour, as CNCC are usually 'on it', hence the 'winky' after. Most positions within committees/clubs are volunteers and we should be very grateful for anything they are doing for their club/organisation.BCA Secretary said:
Hopefully other clubs will also share so it ends up wider distributed.
BCA Chair
Member
Hi Estelle, not taken as a dig at all
But if I can use this thread as a sneaky way to encourage more people to offer to help their clubs with social media (as you do for yours) then I certainly will (plus keeps this thread bumped up so more people might read the newsletter).
I have found in most clubs and organisations that there is a strong desire to utilise social media to interact with other organisations, communicate with members (and attract new members) and help promote aspects of British caving. The issue is often finding someone social media-savvy to do it and willing to take on the work. Social media works best with regular posts (i.e. at least a couple of posts/shares per week rather than one thing every few months). This is time-demanding. I have been most impressed with how a few northern clubs have recently embraced social media, with excellent results for them. The bizarre thing is that I am not on Facebook myself, but I still totally see the value (when used in addition to UKCaving of course).
But if I can use this thread as a sneaky way to encourage more people to offer to help their clubs with social media (as you do for yours) then I certainly will (plus keeps this thread bumped up so more people might read the newsletter).
I have found in most clubs and organisations that there is a strong desire to utilise social media to interact with other organisations, communicate with members (and attract new members) and help promote aspects of British caving. The issue is often finding someone social media-savvy to do it and willing to take on the work. Social media works best with regular posts (i.e. at least a couple of posts/shares per week rather than one thing every few months). This is time-demanding. I have been most impressed with how a few northern clubs have recently embraced social media, with excellent results for them. The bizarre thing is that I am not on Facebook myself, but I still totally see the value (when used in addition to UKCaving of course).
