Pc non-pc cave names

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mrodoc

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I vaguely heard this on the radio this morning. This is censorship plain and simple. As a retired GP it's ridiculous to pretend people who are fat aren't. We could tell who was pretty likely to develop type 2 diabetes just by looking at them and since retiring most of the fat people I have spoken to mention their diabetes at some stage.
 

Joe Duxbury

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Oh for love of ….
Just for fun what non pc named bits of cave can you come up with and provide a funny yet pc alternative suggestion?
Well, if the word 'fat' is too much for sensitive ears, what shall we do with 'Fat Man's Misery' in Agen Allwedd? How about 'Person of above average size's possible discomfort'? And there must be lots of 'Virgin Passages' about. They'll have to be revised.
 

royfellows

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Slightly off topic but this whole woke PC thing will untimately implode upon itself, it has to as we are now moving into the relm of a denial of reality. "Men can have babies too" is the most ridiculous so far. - So far.
 

mrodoc

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It was always Blue Pencil. The name was given to the passage because of the language used getting down it.
 

royfellows

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Transgender men can give birth, and I believe that "transgender men" can be a subset of "men", so some men can give birth. If you don't feel that "transgender men" can be a subset of "men" then that's your opinion, not an objective reality.
I was referring to natural men or transgender women who originally were natural men. I wont ty to expand any more on this as its confusing enough as it is.
 
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ZombieCake

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Can other appropriate technical terms such as wobble bottom, tub of lard, and foot steps measured on the richter scale, still be used if fat can't be?
 

LadyMud

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I'm interested to know how you define "objective reality"

Prince Harry can help you out with that:
"Whatever the cause, my memory is my memory, it does what it does, gathers and curates as it sees fit, and there's just as much truth in what I remember and how I remember it as there is in so-called objective facts."
 

royfellows

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On thread, well sort of. Mine names of shafts etc tend to be named after either the leader of the group who drove or sunk them or a director or shareholder in the mining company. There is actually a "Roys Shaft" somewhere I cant place, but "Roy" was the surname of somebody.

here is a story. A name may well be not 'non PC' but still cause some offence.
Now one of the main operators in Wales was John Taylor and Co. Taylor was from Norwich, so if anyone refers to him as a Cornishman they wrong, although his company was Cornwall based. He had mining interests at Rhandymwyn and when a new shaft was sunk they were stuck for a name for it. The was already a Taylors Shaft. Someone had joked that they way he was going he would conquer all of Wales, so the new shaft was then named Conquer of Wales Shaft. I bet this went down real well with the locals.

By way, the quote in my original posting was nought to do with TG. It was from a lady who was training health care workers who was teaching that men could give birth out of their penises and was in the interests of 'inclusivity' if thats a proper word. I think if I was to be treated by that lady I would run out of the hospital in my pyjama’s or whatever.
 

aricooperdavis

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I'm interested to know how you define "objective reality", if it is not the reality one observes, rather than the "reality" one feels or believes, but that is at odds with the observed reality.
I was referencing Roy's use of 'reality' - there is of course no such thing as objective reality.

By way, the quote in my original posting was nought to do with TG.
Sorry for getting the wrong end of the stick, Roy, I didn't intend to poke the culture war wasps nest, just clear up a common misunderstanding.
 

Samouse1

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I was referring to natural men or transgender women who originally were natural men. I wont ty to expand any more on this as its confusing enough as it is.
Implying that one group of people is unnatural while another is “natural” is possibly not the best way to go about things, given how much it sounds like several instances of bad people in history trying to get rid of a persecuted group of people. This is in no way meant in offence, im sure that’s not what you were trying to imply, just a thought :)
 

royfellows

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I have already made things clear above, read what I say and learn an interesting piece of mining history as well.
 
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