Probably the best thing to do is try them both. Tony Seddon's usually a good shout, he will be out in the Hope valley, Derbyshire on the 24th and 25th of November.
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Otherwise, theres a few clubs that are dotted around where you might be able to ask a few people to have a go on their equipment. I know the YSS at Helwith Bridge have a good SRT wall, The Bradford Pothole club near Horten in Ribblesdale also have some SRT facilities.
I'm a member of the TSG in Castleton and we have an area where you can rig ropes from. So it might be an idea to pop over and have a go, we'll probably have a few members out with different devices.
If you don't want to be sold gear or prefer not to get involved with clubs, then another place you could go to is the Derbyshire Caving association who are holding some SRT events.
Now I look for the events I cannot find them anywhere online. But have found them in my emails.
I've tried to delete any events which have already happened, but have left most of the other stuff in there. (for some reason most of the C's have been turned into G's!
DGA/BCA Technical Workshops
SRT Rigging workshop - Saturday November 24s2018 The perfect workshop for those who are proficient using SRT and wish to improve their SRT rigging skills, pick up tips from qualified BCA instructors etc. Those attending will be expected to demonstrate full S.R.T to a high standard.
SRT Self Rescue workshop - Sunday November 25th2018 Can you help your colleagues out if they have a problem on rope? This workshop is perfect for those who are proficient in personal SRT and pitch rigging who wish to improve their SRT self rescue skills.
Technical Training Gourses
SRT Assessment (Module 3A) - Friday November 9s - places available Skills assessment of your personal SRT. This is an opportunity to put yourself up against the national standard for SRT against a current CIC Trainer & Assessor.
Ropework for Gavers Course - Thursday & Friday December 6th & 7th 2018 This 2 day training course is for cavers who wish to learn the skills of basic pitch rigging for ladder and line and simple non technical SRT pitches. Day 1 is surface training and day 2 is underground.
SRT Rigging Course (Module 4 part 1)- Saturday & Sunday November 24th & 25th 2018 This is a 2 day training course for competent SRT cavers at the Module 3A standard. You must be familiar with a basic level of ropework and knot tying to get the most from this course.
SRT Self Rescue Course (Module 4 part 2) - Saturday & Sunday January 5h & 6th 2019 This is a 2 day training course for competent SRT cavers at the Module 3A standard.
Refresher Courses & Workshops
Basic Caving trips - By appointment only. These trips are ideal for individuals or small groups who wish to explore more caves and gain valuable personal experience before moving onto the more technical courses. Participants must have attended the Basic Caving Course.
Vertical (non SRT) caving trips - By appointment only. These trips are ideal for individuals or small groups who wish to explore more caves and gain valuable personal experience before moving onto the SRT courses. Participants must have attended the Vertical (non SRT) Caving Course.
SRT Guided 'Classic Caving'trips - By appointment only. These trips are ideal for individuals or small groups who wish to explore those mighty classic vertical potholes of the UK. Participants must hold module 3A in SRT personal competence. All equipment can be provided.
SRT Master class - Sunday October 28s - 3 places available - Sunday January 6h 2019 - 4 places available These trips are a rare opportunity to look at personal SRT and get tips from one of the original developerc of current SRT, Nigel Atkins.
Speciality Courses & Workshops
Cave Photography Workshop - Derbyshire - phone for details as fhrs rs a very specialised event with limited places. ?40 per person
Weather and Flooding Workshop - Saturday November 171h2018 - Derbyshire - emai! or phone for details as fhrs ls a very specialised event with limited places.
Cave Navigation Workshop - Yorkshire Dales or South Wales - Sunday December 9b email or phone for detals as fhls ls a very specialised event with limited places.
Cave Geology Workshop - Derbyshire - email or phone for details as fh,s ls a very specialised event with limited places.
Mine Exploration Workshop - Friday November 30s - Derbyshire. This workshop is run by a cunent CIC Mines Trainer & Assessor. - email or phone for defarls as thrs ls a very specialised event with limited places.
Cavers First Aid Workshop - Sunday January 13th 2019 - Derbyshire. This workshop is day 1 from the Outdoor 16 hour first Aid course and is a great introduction. For those wishing to obtain the full qualification, you can book onto the 2d day giving you the full 16 hour certificate. 850 per person for this one-day workshop.
Surface Navigation Workshop - Sunday December 2nd - places available This workshop is designed to introduce and improve navigation techniques useful to any outdoor enthusiast, especially cavers venturing to those more remote caves. We will look at map interpretation, compass work and micro navigation. This workshop is for anyone wishing to navigate themselves in remote areas.
Goaching Workshops These workshops are designed to introduce the skills of coaching and look at the teaching of the Training Syllabus modules. These is an essential workshop for experienced cavers considering registering for the Coaching Scheme. Please contact us for the criteria to attend this workshop.
SRT Goaching Workshop - Sunday Janu ary 2}th 2019 - Derbyshire (Level 3 of the Coaching Scheme) A practical workshop ideal for cavers already or are thinking about teaching others SRT.
SRT Pitch Rigging Coaching Workshop - January 27s - Derbyshire (Level 3 of the Coaching Scheme) A practical workshop ideal for cavers already or are thinking about teaching others SRT Pitch Rigging.
BGA Cave Leader Gourses
BGA Cave Leader Training (LC/MLA) Level 1 Monday & Tuesday October 24th & 25f'- Derbyshire - cave Level 1 Friday October 26h- Derbyshire - mines day Level 2 Tuesday & Wednesday October 30d' & 31"t - Derbyshire
DCA Coaching Scheme
Formerly the DCA Training Officers Training Scheme, this has now been developed into the DCA Coaching Scheme which is available to all who are looking towards training other cavers. NB'. lnformation on the 3 levels of the Caving Coaching scheme will be given after the lntroduction workshop and upon registration to the scheme.
Level 1 Coaching Course. 3 days level 1 LCLA training. Oct 24h to 26th.
Level 2 Coaching Course. 4 days including 2 days level 2 LCLA training. Oct 306 to Nov 2nd.
Level 3 Coaching Course. 7 days including 5 days CIC training. Nov 12s to Nov 15h -261h &271h.
BCA Cave lnstructor Courses
BCA Cave lnstructor Training (ClC) Sunday November l2thbNov 1sth 2018. Please call or email for further details and costs on any of the above workshops and courses.
Good caving
Nige t: 01283 210666 m: 07831 449919 Nigel Atkins. DCA Training officer nigel@pennineorganisation.com