Porth yr Ogof or Little Neath River Cave?

[david3392]

I'm planning a trip to either Porth yr Ogof or Little Neath River Cave next week. I'm a visitor from Derbyshire, happy with SRT but my mate, although a climber, has only been down Giant's Hole. We want to do something sporty, don't mind getting wet but won't have wetsuits. The guide book gives good descriptions for both caves but LNRC seems to offer more variety and looks to be a longer trip. A bit of a loaded question but what would the panel suggest, considering our mixed ability? Also is the guidebook sufficient or do you need a survey? Are there any local issues/access/warnings that might be useful. Cheers, David

 

[rich]

Porth yr Ogof isn't really very sporting (unless you count the danger of the resurgence pool which you won't want to do -- see the warnings at the entrance). I don't think it's too much fun -- you never get far from one of the entrances and you'll be elbowing scouts out of the way the entire time.

LNRC is quite sporting, possibly a bit too much for a beginner. A wetsuit is definitely recommended. You should be able to get around without a survey. It does flood so look out if there's rain next week.

Why those two in particular? If you want a compromise, Llygad Llwchwr is a good sporting wet-ish cave suitable for a beginner.

 

[AndyF]

lNRC is a great cave but you have to know the weather and I'd agree a wetsuit is desirable. Best done with someone who knows it.

 

[owd git]

can let you have use of 2 wetsuits David. gis a bell Ric'

 

[david3392]

Thanks guys-sound advice. We're a bit limited to free access caves and for one day only so, thanks for that. Good suggestion from Rich; Llygad Llwchyr sounds more promising. Ric; will be in touch soon. Cheers, Dave

 

[gav2pac]

what date are you looking to go? llygad llwchwr is a nice little cave to spend a few hours in, any probs locating it, im only 5 mins down the road 

 

[shortscotsman]

Combining Llygadd Llwchwr with Ogof Pasg/Ogof Foel Fawr would make a good day. I'd do
Llygadd  Llwchwr first.

the topic : advice on caves s.wales (clydach gorge area) discusses some
other options.

 

[cap n chris]

LL trip report, for reference, here:

http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php/topic,2467.msg25579.html#msg25579


PS Ancient history. Takes me back. Takes me aback, too.

 

[david3392]

what date are you looking to go? llygad llwchwr is a nice little cave to spend a few hours in, any probs locating it, im only 5 mins down the road 
Probably Monday, weather permitting. Looks fun, thanks for the offer! Cheers, David

 

[david3392]

LL trip report, for reference, here:

http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php/topic,2467.msg25579.html#msg25579


PS Ancient history. Takes me back. Takes me aback, too.

Thanks cap'n. Good report. Looks like this will be the one. Cheers, David

 

[david3392]

Cracking trip down LL the other week. A tricky climb into the entrance [a fixed rope left by a preceeding youth group was useful]and then we followed the black polish! A bit of everything and we did get to see the accessible sump chambers. Pity it was spoiled by the returning and by now, hysterical youth group emerging from a gentle semi-duck. Well worth a second visit and thanks again for the info. Cheers, David