Secret Digs

[andymorgan]

Tyning's Barrow Swallet

Goughs

GB

Wigmore

Sows Hole

 

[Peter Burgess]

we don't have proper winters anymore!

Correct. Also, we have Once in a Hundred Years floods every couple of weeks.

In Newspapers yesterday it was reported that a Geochelone pardalis has gone into hibernation, the last time the Geochelone pardalis hibernated was in roughy 1984 during the last big freeze,

Is this a warning of another big freeze ?

Here's the scientific analysis, which probably didn't

(a) check if the local population of Geochelone pardalis had gone to bed and switched off the light.
(b) consult the experts at the offices of the more sensationalist newspapers.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/seasonal/winter2006_7/index.html

 

[Les W]

Cairo Shaft

Cairo shaft is an entirely man made lead mine with no natural development. 

 

[whitelackington]

spoil sport

 

[whitelackington]

Cairo Shaft

Cairo shaft is an entirely man made lead mine with no natural development. 

Entirely man-made?
Does the water drain away?
We woz down Singing River Mine
Sunday, that is man-made but there must be some natural cave as the water rushes down a narrow slot, probably worth digging/blasting

 

[Peter Burgess]

Entirely man-made?
Does the water drain away?
We woz down Singing River Mine
Sunday, that is man-made but there must be some natural cave as the water rushes down a narrow slot, probably worth digging/blasting

How big does a fissure or crack have to be before it can be called a 'cave'? How can you be sure that the water runs into a passage large enough to be called a 'cave'? Virtually all the water that falls onto chalk downland disappears into fissures and cracks, but there are precious few caves under the chalk downs. There are streams of water that flow in the stone mines in Surrey, and they disappear into fissures and cracks. There are no caves beyond, I can be certain of that.

 

[Les W]

Cairo Shaft

Cairo shaft is an entirely man made lead mine with no natural development. 

Entirely man-made?
Does the water drain away?

No 

We woz down Singing River Mine
Sunday, that is man-made but there must be some natural cave as the water rushes down a narrow slot, probably worth digging/blasting

I stuck my head down there once (that was a hell of an acrobatic manoeuver by the way, had to have assistance to get the right way up again) it is very narrow and would be a long term blasting project. It is natural though. 

 

[Les W]

How big does a fissure or crack have to be before it can be called a 'cave'?

I believe the definition of a "cave" is that the passage must be large enough to allow the entry of a person.

Obviously this requires a "standard" person. I expect there is a British Standard for a "standard person" or perhaps an ISO standard or a Euro Norm (EN)

Is this why Dwarves find more cave 

From what I've seen of the diggers in the mythical Upper Flood Swallet extensions they're all quite small too. 

 

[martinr]

the mythical Upper Flood Swallet extensions

Mythical my foot!


(photo of the Departure Lounge by Charlie Allison, as in Descent. One of the smaller passages, I believe)

 

[whitelackington]

Cairo Shaft

Cairo shaft is an entirely man made lead mine with no natural development. 

Entirely man-made?
Does the water drain away?

No 

We woz down Singing River Mine
Sunday, that is man-made but there must be some natural cave as the water rushes down a narrow slot, probably worth digging/blasting

I stuck my head down there once (that was a hell of an acrobatic manoeuver by the way, had to have assistance to get the right way up again) it is very narrow and would be a long term blasting project. It is natural though. 

It coud be worth a project at the soakaway @ the bottom of Singing River Mine,
using modern methods/techniques.
There is still loads of depth potential.

MU states Singing River Mine altitude 151 m   depth 25m
so 126 before sea level.
I wonder wot the sequence is here.

 

[Les W]

It coud be worth a project at the soakaway @ the bottom of Singing River Mine,
using modern methods/techniques.
There is still loads of depth potential.

MU states Singing River Mine altitude 151 m  depth 25m
so 126 before sea level.
I wonder wot the sequence is here.

The passage in Singing River is heading for the valley to the West of Shipham IIRC

There is a small stream there that may well be from Singing River. If so then apart from opening a through trip there is not much potential. I don't believe it has been dye tested though. 

 

[truescrumpy]

It coud be worth a project at the soakaway @ the bottom of Singing River Mine,
using modern methods/techniques.
There is still loads of depth potential.

MU states Singing River Mine altitude 151 m   depth 25m
so 126 before sea level.
I wonder wot the sequence is here.

The passage in Singing River is heading for the valley to the West of Shipham IIRC

There is a small stream there that may well be from Singing River. If so then apart from opening a through trip there is not much potential. I don't believe it has been dye tested though. 

Lets dye tested, we soon find out and then with the recent acquired skill, we can test the Upper Flood stream and anything else.

 

[whitelackington]

I've got a secret dig that I frequent occasionally. Whitelackington hasn't attended. I can't say where it is 'cos I don't think I'm supposed to dig there. Haven't been there for a while - leave evidence of my visit in the vegetation this time of year, so it's really a winter dig. You might be surprised who's been there with me!!!

Hence it's secret!!!

Hughie, It is now WINTER
is your secret dig an active secret dig?

 

[Tree Monkey]

Well I'm going to let it slip out again on this forum!   Found a bit more passage in another secret dig!!   Cat beat a bit of solo digging!!

 

[Les W]

Cat beat a bit of solo digging!!

Your cat goes digging on its own 

 

[martinr]

Well I'm going to let it slip out again on this forum!   Found a bit more passage in another secret dig!!   Cat beat a bit of solo digging!!

Would that be at the top rift on the hill?

 

[cap n chris]

Found a bit more passage

Is that "a bit" as in traditional Mendip single figure metres or UFS metres?

 

[Tree Monkey]

Well I'm going to let it slip out again on this forum!   Found a bit more passage in another secret dig!!   Cat beat a bit of solo digging!!

Would that be at the top rift on the hill?

Which Hill would that be then Martin R? :-\

 

[Tree Monkey]

Cat beat a bit of solo digging!!

Your cat goes digging on its own 

I should have said, You can't beat a bit of solo digging Les. 8)  For the record I don't own a cat!  But I do own a Jack russell which enjoys a good dig!

 

[Tree Monkey]

How big does a fissure or crack have to be before it can be called a 'cave'?

I believe the definition of a "cave" is that the passage must be large enough to allow the entry of a person.

Obviously this requires a "standard" person. I expect there is a British Standard for a "standard person" or perhaps an ISO standard or a Euro Norm (EN)

Is this why Dwarves find more cave 

From what I've seen of the diggers in the mythical Upper Flood Swallet extensions they're all quite small too. 

You forgot me Les!   I'm almost a metre taller than the others!!