The underground route out of lockdown

[PeteHall]

There is also the issue of the image of the sport and the good will of locals /land owners

If everyone suddenly thinks its OK to drive here there and everywhere to go caving there very well are likely to be negative impacts

Compared to the number of people out walking and cycling, I very much doubt cavers will have any impact on visitor numbers or public perception. But obviously don't be a dick and probably avoid honey pot sites at peak times (unless you want to blend into the crowds).

 

[tomferry]

Normality had to start somewhere that is one thing 

 

[Ed]

Bear in mind in certain parts on North Yorkshire covid administration to hospital figures are still going up

I work at a West Yorkshire hospital, which covers a large part of North Yorkshire including some of the caving areas. Our covid cases are definitely going down.

Positive admissions to Harrogate are still increasing

 

[mikem]

On Thursday they only had 2 more patients than the previous week: https://www.hdft.nhs.uk/coronavirus/trust-wide-current-statistics/

 

[Ed]

On Thursday they only had 2 more patients than the previous week: https://www.hdft.nhs.uk/coronavirus/trust-wide-current-statistics/

That's in patients.... Not those that present to CAT and are "well" enough not to require staying.

There are also cases of post first vaccination jab infection.....

Not actually vaccinated until about 14 days after second dose.

All I'm saying is don't expect everything to open up and go back to 2019 for a fair while yet

 

[Brains]

March 29th fast approaching. Travel ban is being lifted and meeting in groups of upto 6 or two family groups will be permitted out doors...
Anyone else planning on an easy caving trip to start getting back in shape?
Obviously no pubs or cafes yet, but a few take away venues may be operating...

 

[PeteHall]

My local diving centre is reopening on the 29th, so I've booked the day off work for a swim.

I'll probably get out caving at the weekend, but not planned anything specific yet...

 

[Badlad]

I'm lucky enough to be local to several caves so am able to exercise underground anyway.  Very much looking forwards to seeing more of my caving mates around though.  The pubs might be closed for a while yet but the Damson Tree is opening on 29th.  Taking bookings already 

 

[PeteHall]

The pubs might be closed for a while yet

I have heard that there are other options if the pubs are closed. 

 

[tomferry]

I am really hoping to get up to peak cavern to speedwell cavern have never been before and watched so many videos am really excited about going !!!

 

[Pitlamp]

Was a consensus ever arrived at as to whether we can actually travel from 29th March?
(I have a close relative in a care home whom I've not been allowed to travel to see since Christmas day.) I'm slightly struggling to get my head around the rules / guidance / law or whatever it is. Don't want to do anything I'm not supposed to.

 

[Brains]

Travel
The ?stay at home? rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes. Travel abroad will continue to be prohibited, other than for a small number of permitted reasons. Holidays abroad will not be allowed, given it will remain important to manage the risk of imported variants and protect the vaccination programme. The government has launched a new taskforce to review global travel which will report on 12 April.
from https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021-summary
IMHO caving is an outdoor pursuit, and travelling "off peak" to do so does seem to be allowed? Six socially distanced people / two families are who you can meet with...
What am I missing or getting wrong?

 

[cap n chris]

Travel
The ?stay at home? rule will end on 29 March

It's a rule, not a law. Therefore you should already have been exercising your liberties as you see fit.

 

[Pitlamp]

Travel
The ?stay at home? rule will end on 29 March

It's a rule, not a law. Therefore you should already have been exercising your liberties as you see fit.

  :doubt:

 

[Alex]

If you have the vaccine Pitlamp, then your risk to that person I would expect be quite low. So it's entirely down to your conscience, not the bloody clowns we call the government.

 

[NewStuff]

It's a rule, not a law. Therefore you should already have been exercising your liberties as you see fit.

Rules aren't really you're forte when you're being restricted by them and not enforcing them on others, eh "Smiley Allen"....

 

[Fjell]

You have been able to visit care homes for this whole period. It is an approved purpose if that is your thing. One nominated person can now actually go inside properly with tests/ppe, others can use whatever facility is made available (glass screens etc). It is up to each care home how this does (or possibly doesn?t) work.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/visiting-care-homes-during-coronavirus/update-on-policies-for-visiting-arrangements-in-care-homes