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kay

Well-known member
I can't give a clue for this, so if there aren't any other suggestions before 9.30 tonight, I'll draw it to a close.
 

kay

Well-known member
I can't give any clues to this (I didn't really think this through before I posted), because it'll just lead people to firing off random numbers to me, and that would be unfair to Skippy who correctly identified it as one of the Ling Gill caves. It is in fact Ling Gill Cave 1, towards the top of the Gill. So over to you, Skippy.
 

skippy

Active member
I was sure I'd passed it many years ago whilst in the gorge..actually, I was with the late Andy Farrow.

Anyway, lets try this. As there are no intrinsic features of the big pitch, I will include a photo of the passage that leads to the pitch head.
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Pitlamp

Well-known member
Assuming I'm right, it's a short but very interesting pothole. At the foot of that shaft is a pool against the wall. The water normally flows off from the pool down a steep slope of cobbles (towards the photographer in the above shot) into the rest of the known pothole. The pool is a choked sump; I've been in it a body length or so. I always assumed it was an inlet sump.

But . . . on a trip in dry conditions a few years ago the water descending the 21 m shaft was cascading into that pool with nothing flowing down the cobble slope. This means that the pool is a downstream sump, perched curiously at the head of the slope. In uber-drought there's very little water sinking into it and as it's at the head of a slope it's a prime candidate for siphoning. If the sump could be dried up and then dug, who knows where it may lead? This pothole still holds many secrets . . . .

Always meant to have a play with this one but my projects list is so rammed I've never got around to it. If anyone else fancies a go, in drought, feel free. It's a fair way to the rising in Trollers Gill. Be good if you could P.M. me if you do have a go, so any findings can then be incorporated into the next Northern Sump Index.

But . . . was I right Skippy?
 

skippy

Active member
My first thought was "I don't know where it is, but if it's not in NFTFH, it should be!"
Hell Hole it is...Over to you Pitlamp.
I've always said its like a mini version of a NFTF classic.
In fairness, the pitch head is not as awkward as the approach suggests.
 

andrewmcleod

Well-known member
I bet you can't get that many things (a big round-bar carabiner, a more modern but still not small I-beam carabiner, and two maillons) in an IC anchor :p
I would have a guess but the mind is blank.
 

Ian P

Administrator
Staff member
I bet you can't get that many things (a big round-bar carabiner, a more modern but still not small I-beam carabiner, and two maillons) in an IC anchor :p
I would have a guess but the mind is blank.

Apparently one Carabiner and one rope is the “standard” 🤷‍♂️.
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