That great virologist/epidemiologist Donald J Trump said that too.
How many genes are the UK testing for postive result to be reported ?
Lots of questions... No official answers just ever growing statistics...
How can labs scale up test capacity and maintain accuracy...?
I'm not denying that something isnt happening but im in the camp of its similar to what is to be expected in a bad flu year but with the added bonus of reduced staffing which links to the over testing.
This is what pisses me off. And I won't do the clickbait tw*ts the favour of providing a link. The Daily Mail has had headlines along these lines for months: 'Experts warn those areas that spent Christmas in Tier 4 are most at risk of even TIGHTER 'Tier 5' Covid restrictions in January - despite data showing cases may already be falling in some of them'The italic bit being the trope they have been trotting out for months. Exactly the same headline when Lockdown 2 came, Blah, Blah, Lockdown 2 coming despite, blah, cases in blah going down.When the dust settles, I hope the role of the media in all this is taken into accout when the enquiry begins.
No, you are denying there is something, you just did. You are grasping for excuses to ignore people dying, because you don't want to be inconvenienced.
Quote from: aardgoose on December 31, 2020, 09:30:04 pmNo, you are denying there is something, you just did. You are grasping for excuses to ignore people dying, because you don't want to be inconvenienced. Emphasis mine. Every single conversation with one of the anti-vax/denier lot boils down to this. Much as I have an exceedingly healthy disregard for authority, there are times you need to buckle down and deal with it. This lot don't want to, they don't like it, it's not compatible with their lifestyle and mindset. All of the fluff, posture and misdirection is simply to hide the fact they haven't got the spine to admit they're cunts and simply don't want to deal with the inconvenience. I've seen people that can barely add up to 10 using their fingers tell PhD biologists they're wrong about this, and it's all a hoax. Worse still are the reasonably intelligent one that know they're wrong, but still put personal liberty ahead of a clear need for a short term societal responsibility. No-one has yet explained to me why the entire world puts everything on hold to deal with this, or why for the first time ever, governments have got their act together and are maintaining a global veil of secrecy and coordination with each other, when normally they struggle to organise a piss-up in a brewery. It's deffo a hoax or the numbers are wrong,or some other bullshit because that explains away their own responsibility nicely. It's not their fault, they're not the bad ones. There is absolutely no concept of personal responsibility.Admin - I know exactly what your stance on language is, and I usually respect that. However, I fully feel that any lesser words don't even begin to convey my contempt for the twats that keep this dragging out and subjecting all of us to endure this for far longer than we needed to.
Actually it puts a lot of people off.Folk are more likely to warm to someone's point of view if it's articulated with reasoned argument.
The reality is that many (but by no means all) people who have died of Covid have been in their last year or two of life.
The years life lost argument is certainly disputed.https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2020/05/28/coronavirus-and-lost-life-three-million-years/
Quote from: aardgoose on January 01, 2021, 03:31:27 pmThe years life lost argument is certainly disputed.https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2020/05/28/coronavirus-and-lost-life-three-million-years/I would hate to see the years lost to alcohol but that doesn't stop most people does it...
Dependency by drinking too much...
Quote from: maxf on January 01, 2021, 03:45:49 pmQuote from: aardgoose on January 01, 2021, 03:31:27 pmThe years life lost argument is certainly disputed.https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2020/05/28/coronavirus-and-lost-life-three-million-years/I would hate to see the years lost to alcohol but that doesn't stop most people does it...How do you catch alcoholism? (Asking for a friend).
(based on evidence from other doctors and scientists* in my case)
it is likely the British public has more immunity than previously thought and Covid-19 could end up "petering out by itself
If government rules are followed, we will be back to normal by June.
I think that the epidemic has largely come and is on its way out in this country
The coronavirus pandemic is “effectively over” in the United Kingdom and “there is absolutely no need for vaccines.
Quote from: Stuart Anderson on January 01, 2021, 03:48:08 pmQuote from: maxf on January 01, 2021, 03:45:49 pmQuote from: aardgoose on January 01, 2021, 03:31:27 pmThe years life lost argument is certainly disputed.https://blogs.bmj.com/medical-ethics/2020/05/28/coronavirus-and-lost-life-three-million-years/I would hate to see the years lost to alcohol but that doesn't stop most people does it...How do you catch alcoholism? (Asking for a friend).I made my comment because surrounding the situation is the idea that we can all help stop people dying early by limiting our own lives to save others and help the NHS as we have been doing in various lockdowns for the best part of last year and will likely be doing for some of this year too at least.Life is not just lost to corona virus however, some causes are out of our hands but some we have direct control over like whether we choose to drink alcohol or not, a guick Google suggests that around 25,000 lives are lost every year due to alcohol. You might say that this is preventable. Maybe some of the corona deaths might have even been prevented as a knock on effect of improving the poor health of those who succumbed for such reasons.Lots of people are completly against the idea of preventive loss of life because of recent events yet probably are not T total themselves so are part of another problem that isn't being so well highlighted right now (I'm not T total for reference).There also lots of online shaming about anyone who has an alternative view point to current events, I saw one article stating 'blood on the hands' of people who don't comply with rules (again for reference I have been and will be complying).I hope those doing the current shaming about those taking a different view (based on evidence from other doctors and scientists* in my case) are so careful with other aspects of their life which might cause un-necessary burden on the health services due to their choices. It would seem to be double standards if they weren't.If we really must prevent all preventable loss of life then we would be in a very boring world."And there is a sizable portion of these across the World not just one or two making noise.
... waffle about alcohol ...
"And there is a sizable portion of these across the World not just one or two making noise.
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