Human Remains in OFD

Dep · Nov 16, 2006

In one of the rooms at the SWCC cottage at Penwyllt there is a photo of a human skeleton.
As I understand it it was found in 1946 when OFD1 was first entered (in modern times)

Can anyone shed any light on it:
How old is it?
Is it still there or was it removed for reburial?
Was it found in 'Skeleton Chamber'?
If so this isn't too far from the resurgence - did someone manage to get in through there perhaps before the current boulder choke in the sump formed?

No particular reason for asking other than idle (morbid!) curiosity...

graham · Nov 16, 2006

I'll check out the references later, if I have the right ones here, but I am reasonably certain that there is no firm (14C) date for these remains, although I think there was some archaeology. IIRC I think the presumption was that the person probably entered via Pant Canol.

gus horsley · Nov 16, 2006

I've got something somewhere on them too. I'll see if I can find the info.

Glenn · Nov 16, 2006

Oh I hate this! Someone starts a thread and unremembered bits of nonsense come screaming back into the memory from oh so long ago!

From my fading recall, the original OFD explorers were surprised to find the skeleton, but, it did link in with an old Swansea Valley folk tale about an itinerent chicken castrator and flute player (although it could have been some form of whistle). One day, the chicken castrator says "I'm going to play my flute inside that hill", and he did, and was never seen again. Or at least not untill they entered OFD...

I'll get me coat...

Barney · Nov 20, 2006

This is interesting, any updates???
Does anyone know anything about the miners leg that is somewhere in Cwmorthin?

:yucky:

Dep · Nov 20, 2006

Glenn said:
Oh I hate this! Someone starts a thread and unremembered bits of nonsense come screaming back into the memory from oh so long ago!

From my fading recall, the original OFD explorers were surprised to find the skeleton, but, it did link in with an old Swansea Valley folk tale about an itinerent chicken castrator and flute player (although it could have been some form of whistle). One day, the chicken castrator says "I'm going to play my flute inside that hill", and he did, and was never seen again. Or at least not untill they entered OFD...

I'll get me coat...

Very good.
Thanks for the responses so far, this is definitely an interesting subject.
Look forwards to any further information.

wormster · Nov 20, 2006

Barney said:
This is interesting, any updates???
Does anyone know anything about the miners leg that is somewhere in Cwmorthin? :yucky:

ask Miles Moulding, he's the welsh mine expert his website:

http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/default.asp

stma · Nov 21, 2006

There are definitely a few odd limbs lying around in Oakeley (Gloddfa Ganol)!!!

biffa · Nov 22, 2006

I heard that the skeleton found was Smith. Hence the Smithy, Smith's Armoury.

Mind you Torchwood makes me think that there are scarier things in OFD now.......

Hatstand · Nov 22, 2006

stma said:
There are definitely a few odd limbs lying around in Oakeley (Gloddfa Ganol)!!!

All the miner's remains I found down there were of questionable sexuality....

andymorgan · Nov 22, 2006

It was obviously a good place to get legless in times gone by!

stma · Nov 22, 2006

All the miner's remains I found down there were of questionable sexuality...

But most are armless enough!

Coat on, Door open..i'll leave now.

Les W · Nov 22, 2006

Hatstand good to see you're back, where you been.

graham · Nov 23, 2006

Should we combine this thread with the one about filming Torchwood at Penwyllt? :-\

Barney · Nov 25, 2006

Anyone see 'meet the ancestors' last night (Thursday)? A couple of cave divers entered a new area of a 'secret' cave somewhere in Yorkshire and discovered human skeletons, Dated about 3,500 years old! :bow:

Hatstand · Nov 26, 2006

Les W said:
Hatstand good to see you're back, where you been.

not strictly sure but there were beans, lots of beans.... :

danthecavingman · Nov 26, 2006

Not in Aisle 2 anyway, that's the place where we saw the Ragu!

Hatstand · Nov 27, 2006

danthecavingman said:
Not in Aisle 2 anyway, that's the place where we saw the Ragu!

But there's so much Ragu!

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