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Vercors 2008 - watch this space
« on: September 24, 2007, 10:35:32 am »
2008 European Congress of Speleology: http://www.vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr/

Lans-en-Vercors, August 23rd - 30th 2008

BCA will be actively supporting this event and will be block booking a number of delegate places at the current reduced rate (valid until 31st October). The intention is that UK cavers can register for the event via BCA and pay in GBP's (at the reduced rate) even after the 31st October. We are still working out the fine detail for this, and I will provide updates as I have them. You can register your interest in the event from now, by emailing: membership@british-caving.org.uk with Vercors 2008 in the subject line.

From a personal perspective, I know that the French are really good at organising these events. Anyone who attended the Speleovision caving film events at La Chapelle-en-Vercors in 2000 and 2002 will know just what a great experience they can be. So, if you are thinking of planning a caving holiday in Europe next year, why not plan to include a week in the Vercors - it's a spectacular area with some great caving.

Glenn
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 08:28:18 am »
Received yesterday from From Olivier Vidal:

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Dear Caving Friends,

This short email to remind you that it's remaining less than 20 days before the 31st of October to get Vercors 2008 non-nominative grouped registrations at the best fare for your club, commitee and federation. All the details on "how to register" are on: http://vercors2008.eu/registration.htm#registration and for the grouped registrations, the information is at: http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=194
 
For the cavers interested to present their work, AV presentations, photos, maps, equipment, etc, please look at the information on: http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=345#p345 and also on: http://vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr/propose.htm#propose

The contact address to send your presentation/lecture details is: articles.vercors2008@ffspeleo.fr (rather than the "articles.vercors" address as mentionned in a previous message).

For the films, videos, slideshows, etc, it's on: http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=184 Contact address: films.vercors2008@ffspeleo.fr
 
Oh ! important, a Vercors 2008 stand will be present end of October, early November at the Italian Congress "Metamorfosi ? Apuane 2007" (http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/main4/agenda-2007.html#2007-11), with a presentation on the 3rd of November at 3pm, and a surprise will be there for every European speleo clubs.
 
Have a good week of ...Exploration ...
 
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Email : <>contact.vercors2008@ffspeleo.fr
Website Vercors 2008 : <>http://www.vercors2008.eu
1° Circula(i)r(e) : <>http://www.vercors2008.eu/presentation.htm#circulars
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Re: Vercors 2008 - watch this space
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 08:30:17 am »
Note to Sam/Bubba:

There are several threads on this topic (I counted at least three when I did a search) in various places on the forum. Is is possible to combine them?

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Re: Vercors 2008 - watch this space
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 01:56:34 pm »
I'm intending on dragging a load of the Dachstein crowd down to the Vercors straight after our exped next summer so will plan the dates accordingly.  I've heard on the grapevine that about twenty caves will be rigged for the week, including the Berger, but not sure how accurate this is.  Regardless, a week of croissants, French girls, and Yop will be much appreciated.  Or Danup.  Never known which I prefer....

Nevertheless, it might be worth some of the other expedition crews planning their trips around this as I suspect it'll be a right laugh. 

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 04:34:54 pm »
Yep - it says on the website that the Berger will be rigged for the duration.

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2007, 08:25:21 am »
Quote from: Olivier Vidal

Dear Caving Friends, This short email to remind you that it's remaining only few days before the 31st of October to get Vercors 2008 non-nominative grouped registrations at the best fare for your club, commitee and federation. All the details on "how to register" are on :
http://vercors2008.eu/registration.htm#registration
and for the grouped registrations, the information is at : http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=194
Have a good week of ...Exploration ...
 
For the Vercors 2008 Committee of Organisation,
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Email : contact.vercors2008@ffspeleo.fr
Website Vercors 2008 : http://www.vercors2008.eu
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 08:03:55 am »
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They have already booked their grouped registrations, Did your club or federation book for you ?
British Association, ISSKA (Swiss), Roumanian Federation, French Federation, Belgian Federation, Bulgarian Federation, Hungarian Federation, UIS Arts Commission, Swiss Group HRH, Speleo Club Luxembourg, SpeleoProjects (Swiss), SpeleoConcepts (Germany), Scurion (Swiss), and more ...
 
Dear Caving Friends, This email to inform you that the preferential fee has been extended of 2 weeks up to 15th of november because of the Italian congress and Alpine Untertage sysmposium in Germany this meek-end. Here above is a list of federations and organisations that have taken grouped registrations, did you take the ones for your club, local federation or national federation/organisation ? It's also good to know that if a person can not come, it is possible to transfer for free his/her registration to someone else. All the details on "how to register" are on : http://vercors2008.eu/registration.htm#registration and for the grouped registrations, the information is at : http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=194
Best Speleological Regards,
 
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 10:58:42 am »
2008 European Congress of Speleology: http://www.vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr/

Lans-en-Vercors, August 23rd - 30th 2008

BCA will be actively supporting this event and will be block booking a number of delegate places at the current reduced rate (valid until 31st October). The intention is that UK cavers can register for the event via BCA and pay in GBP's (at the reduced rate) even after the 31st October. We are still working out the fine detail for this, and I will provide updates as I have them. You can register your interest in the event from now, by emailing: membership@british-caving.org.uk with Vercors 2008 in the subject line.

From a personal perspective, I know that the French are really good at organising these events. Anyone who attended the Speleovision caving film events at La Chapelle-en-Vercors in 2000 and 2002 will know just what a great experience they can be. So, if you are thinking of planning a caving holiday in Europe next year, why not plan to include a week in the Vercors - it's a spectacular area with some great caving.

Glenn
BCA Membership Administrator


BCA has now purchased 40 (full) registrations and 10 (accompanied spouse/partner) registrations at the reduced rate so that UK cavers can register in pounds sterling via BCA. The registration fees are £28.00 full and £18.00 for an accompanied spouse/partner.

If you wish to register via BCA, please send an email to membership@british-caving.org.uk with Vercors 2008 in the subject line containing the following information for each person registering:

Forename, Surname, contact email address, class of registration required, total amount you will  be paying. You will also need to send payment to BCA's Great Hucklow address, or if you request to pay via credit card, I can send you the details of how to do that.

Registrations will be recorded on a first come basis once payment has been confirmed and I will then send an email confirming your registration.

Please see: http://www.vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr/ for further details of the congress.


Glenn
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2007, 09:15:43 am »
This message to inform you that the limit date for the propositions of presentations/communications, films and 3D slideshows for Vercors 2008 is within 2 weeks on the 17th of December 2007. The sessions are open to all (details on http://vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr/propose.htm#propose)
The propositions should be sent to articles.vercors2008@ffspeleo.fr for the presentations and films.vercors2008@ffspeleo.fr for the films and slideshows.
Please transmit this message to the filmmakers and 3D slideshow makers that you know, because many of them said that they didn't receive the information yet.
And please translate this message to put it on your national forum/mailing-list.
Kind Speleological Regards,
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2008, 04:11:06 pm »
Hi

Does anyone have any information on the dates the caves will be rigged from or any system of regulating access while they are rigged?

I’m hoping to get a group to go to the area in August but I’m not sure if you need to register or log in to use the pre rigged caves. There isn’t much info on this on the Vercor 08 website.

One assumes you just turn up at the desired entrance with SRT kit and a light although Berger might get a bit busy if that’s the case.

Looks like a great opportunity though.

Cheers, RB

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 09:52:21 pm »
Does anyone have any information on the dates the caves will be rigged from or any system of regulating access while they are rigged?

Hi RB,

Went to the French National Congress in Narbonne a couple of years ago and they just left the caves rigged for a couple of weeks either side of the conference, you didn't have to book-in or anything. Don't know if it will be the same in the Vercors although I would have thought it might be a bit more regulated - isn't there some sort of insurance requirement for the Berger?

Suggest you keep checking the website for further info, August is a long way off.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 05:43:02 pm »
Hi

Does anyone have any information on the dates the caves will be rigged from or any system of regulating access while they are rigged?

I’m hoping to get a group to go to the area in August but I’m not sure if you need to register or log in to use the pre rigged caves. There isn’t much info on this on the Vercor 08 website.

One assumes you just turn up at the desired entrance with SRT kit and a light although Berger might get a bit busy if that’s the case.

Looks like a great opportunity though.

Cheers, RB


The caves that will be rigged are listed here:

http://vercors2008.eu/training.htm#subsection32

Rigging info and topo's are to be posted at some point.

For info: Traversée des Anciens (réseau Christian Gathier) is a through trip, but you really need to understand the Christian Gathier/Scialet du Brudour end of the system if you don't want to be rescued...

The latest information that I have is that the caves will be ready on the evening of Friday August 22nd and will be derigged on the 30th of August.

Access: My understanding is that if you have registered in advance (via BCA for example) then you will be covered by the congress insurance from the 23rd to the 30th of August. Every congress attendee that wishes to go caving in the pre-rigged caves must register for every different cave he/she wants to do at the Explo-Speleo stand where they will be issued with a badge/pass. If someone is not registered and they have an accident, they will not be covered by insurance and any costs (from rescue etc,) would do legally pursued. Goufre Berger - there will be control of badges at the entrance because of the official obligation of registration for the Berger.

Cheers,

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At some point rigging information and topo's will be posted.





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Re: Vercors 2008 - watch this space
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2008, 06:31:16 pm »
2008 European Congress of Speleology: http://www.vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr/

Lans-en-Vercors, August 23rd - 30th 2008

BCA will be actively supporting this event and will be block booking a number of delegate places at the current reduced rate (valid until 31st October). The intention is that UK cavers can register for the event via BCA and pay in GBP's (at the reduced rate) even after the 31st October. We are still working out the fine detail for this, and I will provide updates as I have them. You can register your interest in the event from now, by emailing: membership@british-caving.org.uk with Vercors 2008 in the subject line.

From a personal perspective, I know that the French are really good at organising these events. Anyone who attended the Speleovision caving film events at La Chapelle-en-Vercors in 2000 and 2002 will know just what a great experience they can be. So, if you are thinking of planning a caving holiday in Europe next year, why not plan to include a week in the Vercors - it's a spectacular area with some great caving.

Glenn
BCA Membership Administrator


BCA has now purchased 40 (full) registrations and 10 (accompanied spouse/partner) registrations at the reduced rate so that UK cavers can register in pounds sterling via BCA. The registration fees are £28.00 full and £18.00 for an accompanied spouse/partner.

If you wish to register via BCA, please send an email to membership@british-caving.org.uk with Vercors 2008 in the subject line containing the following information for each person registering:

Forename, Surname, contact email address, class of registration required, total amount you will  be paying. You will also need to send payment to BCA's Great Hucklow address, or if you request to pay via credit card, I can send you the details of how to do that.

Registrations will be recorded on a first come basis once payment has been confirmed and I will then send an email confirming your registration.

Please see: http://www.vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr/ for further details of the congress.


Glenn
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For information, there is just one (1) full registration left at £28.00. First one to email me at membership@british-caving.org.uk with Vercors 2008 in the subject line gets it (subject to receipt of payment).

Cheers,

Glenn


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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2008, 05:42:38 pm »
For info, all BCA (discounted) delegate places have now been sold. I shall be sending the delegate spreadsheet to Olivier tomorrow and will ask when we can expect to receive registration details.

Thanks to all for supporting this, and see you there.

Cheers,

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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2008, 09:40:39 am »
Quote from: Olivier Vidal

Thanks to inform the cavers of your country and your club/organisation that it remains 8 days before 30th of May to register at preferential rate (Last Extension) for Vercors 2008 on :
 
http://vercors2008.eu/registration.htm#registernow
 
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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 08:45:53 am »
I know that most will be based in the north of the Vercors this year, but, if anyone is going to be based in the south (around La Chapelle) from 14th August onwards maybe you could let me know.

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2008, 08:42:55 am »
Quote from: Olivier Vidal

EN : Vercors 2008 is in 2 months now ! This email to inform you that it remains only 12 days to register yourself or your club/federation (grouped registrations) for the European Speleological Congress at the preferential rate of 58 euros (35 euros reduced rate), up to 30th of June. The fare will be 68 euros after that (and as a reminder, it was 38 euros for those how registered last year). And don't forget to register for the proceedings !
 
And also you can participate to the European contests :
- EuroSpeleo Protection (before 10th July) :
<http://fsue.org/commission/protection/eurospeleo%20protection%20label.htm>http://fsue.org/commission/protection/eurospeleo%20protection%20label.htm
- Frederik Hammel 2008 FFS prevention & Rescue Award (before 15th of July) :
<http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=230>http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=230
- "EuroSpeleo Photos" 2008 contest (before 15th of July) :
<http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=231>http://fsue.ffspeleo.fr/forums/viewtopic.php?id=231

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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2008, 04:55:11 pm »
Hi all,

Any hints on how to actually register via the Vercors site? A member of our club is trying to register his partner as a non-caver. However when trying to register on line it took us to a  v. dodgy unsecured site - (http not https) and was given the message that a maximum number of attempts of been exceeded and then "Malheureusement votre paiement n'a pas pu être pris en compte." 

Looks like we're a bit stumped - has anyone else had these difficulties?

Cheers, R

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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2008, 08:24:59 am »
Olivier Vidal has this morning sent me a provisional programme for Vercors 2008. It's in PDF format so I can't post it here, and I assume that most people who have registered already a copy via e-mail. However, if you'd like a copy and don't have one, you can download it from http://www.vercors2008.eu/program.pdf

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2008, 11:59:16 am »
I have just emailed every one who has registered for Vercors 2008 via BCA with instructions on registering at the event, and attaching the provisional programme and an insurance application (the French Federation have negotiated a special deal on insurance for those attending and restricting their activities to the caves and canyons rigged by the various French teams. It costs €4 per person and covers the Congress and any previous camps). You must have insurance to descend the caves rigged as part of the conference and €4 is a really good deal. However, if you are taking out cover via the "BCA's holiday caving" cover, you should take a copy of the policy with you.

If anyone does not receive the above mentioned email (and thinks they should), then please let me know at membership@british-caving.org.uk, although you will not get a reply before Monday 21st July as I will be in the Vercors from tomorrow onwards.

Cheers,

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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2008, 07:27:39 pm »
Will snowcard insurance cover me?
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2008, 10:24:09 pm »
Level 3 activcard ought to, but I guess it is ultimately up to the Maire of Engines whether to accept it or not.

I think it was ok last time we did the Berger (2001) but I'm not certain.
The main issue was always the need to supply a bond (£1000) against uninsured rescue costs (or proof that the costs were covered). A letter from BCRA's insurers was always good enough but I'm not so sure about Snowcard.

I guess the bond will not be necessary as the French will have covered that for the duration of the event so I reckon Snowcard Activcard level 3 will be fine.
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 02:51:51 pm »
Please can anyone help with a query as I cannot find the details on the Vercors web site.

I understand that to go into a cave in the area while the congress is on you have to log your interest the day before and there is a tag system to know who is in or out.

Do you have to be 'Registered/paid the conference entrance fee' to go into these caves?

I have BCA insurance, does this cover me to go into the Vercor caves?

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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 08:18:33 pm »

I have BCA insurance, does this cover me to go into the Vercor caves?


Ultimately, this is up to the organisers of the Vercors event to answer, but I should point out that if by "BCA insurance" you mean you are either a DIM or are a club member and are therefore contributing to the BCA's PL Scheme, then this is not a rescue or travel insurance policy and won't cover you for rescue or medical costs.

You need to be aware of the fact that this is the key difference between the cover provided through membership of BCA and the cover which comes as part of membership of the FFS. AIUI, their membership includes worldwide travel and rescue insurance, whereas ours does not. And, before any one asks why not, last time I looked, their cover was more than twice as expensive as ours.

I would expect that rescue and medical cover is what the Vercors 2008 event organisers will be most interested in, but you really need to ask them for yourself.

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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2008, 10:14:17 am »
Please can anyone help with a query as I cannot find the details on the Vercors web site.

I understand that to go into a cave in the area while the congress is on you have to log your interest the day before and there is a tag system to know who is in or out.

Do you have to be 'Registered/paid the conference entrance fee' to go into these caves?

I have BCA insurance, does this cover me to go into the Vercor caves?

Cheers
Judi

Hi Judi, From a Email I received:
Cavers who registered for the congress and who have a congress badge must register for every different cave he/she wants to do (including Berger - control of badges at the entrance) at the Explo-Speleo stand (where guides/topo's and access routes will be available). Additionally, cavers must have insurance.
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