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A Prize for Top Technical Tip

Pegasus

Administrator
Staff member
Hi Sam, I don't see why Mods can't enter - and at the moment, one good tip, and 50m of Spanset Gold could be yours!!
 

menacer

Active member
As a lighter weight caver Ive never used a breaking crab with my stop. On the odd occasion Ive found myself on a bit of fast in situe worn 8mm, I just used one of my cowstail crabs. Probably not pc tho'  :confused:
 

Pegasus

Administrator
Staff member
Badlad said:
The prize will be awarded for the best technical tip for digging, SRT or rigging as posted in the Digging or Equipment section of the technical forum. 

Don't forget to post in the Digging or Equipment sections folks!
 

cavermark

New member
SamT said:
Not sure folks are taking this too seriously.  :confused:

There is actually an actual prize to be actually given to someone for an actual decent caving tip.  I'm not allowed to enter, being a mod, but I'd be trying a bit harder than you lot if I was allowed.  :ras:

That's a top tip, technically,  Sam  ;)

No harm in an actual bit of light heartedness along the way is there?  ;)
 

SamT

Moderator
No harm in light hearted banter at all, I'm just surprised nobody's actually seriously gone for any tips (bar Peter with the 'dig your dig to at least kneeling height).

So (with Pegasus's blessing) - here's a serious contender.

Use a krab clipped to your chinstrap to help stuff a rope into a tackle sack.  Its something we all have to do regularly.  I usually have one of those DMM revolver krabs with the built in pulley on my harness anyhow so I use that. 

http://youtu.be/noCEl5XDEJU

Its brilliant if you've got a lot of rope to pack prior or post a big trip.  I often forget I've got the krab on my chin, which has clearly happened in this photo if you look closely (at my chin.... not elsewhere  :-[ )

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TheBitterEnd

Well-known member
Feels a bit swotty and I am usually all for having a laugh but decided to be a rope-whore so posted a serious suggestion in the digging section.
 

Maj

Active member
Caving shreddies.
Don't wear cotton under garment (caving shreddies/T shirts) beneath fury suit etc. They hold the damp water and stay cold for a lot longer. Even just stopping during a caving trip they feel cod and damp. Instead wear man-made fibre under garments eg swimming trunks/rash vest. They hold very little water, and so if damp when putting on they warm up very quickly. Dry quicker in drying rooms etc. so are less likely to be damp in the first place. They don't feel cold and damp when stopping for a break and don't sup the heat away. Also good for underground camps, because again are so much more pleasant to put on in the morning.
I used to wear old cotton shreddies, tried synthetic, will never wear cotton caving shreddies again.

Maj.
 

martinm

New member
Maj said:
Caving shreddies.
Don't wear cotton under garment (caving shreddies/T shirts) beneath fury suit etc. They hold the damp water and stay cold for a lot longer.

Helly Hanson wicking base layer me, then undersuit, then oversuit...
 

Bottlebank

New member
SamT said:
Not sure folks are taking this too seriously.  :confused:

There is actually an actual prize to be actually given to someone for an actual decent caving tip.  I'm not allowed to enter, being a mod, but I'd be trying a bit harder than you lot if I was allowed.  :ras:

Send me all the moderators tips, if I win I'll happily split the rope four or five ways?
 

Maj

Active member
Silicone Grease.
Use it for O-ring seals on lamps, torches, Daren drums etc. Don't use vaseline (petroleum products) because these get absorbed by the rubber causing the rubber to swell. Silicone grease is available from most good plumbers merchants in small tubs which should last a good few years for most cavers (although once you've got some, you'll probably find a lot more uses for it).

Maj.
 

Madness

New member
Maj said:
Silicone Grease.
Use it for O-ring seals on lamps, torches, Daren drums etc. Don't use vaseline (petroleum products) because these get absorbed by the rubber causing the rubber to swell. Silicone grease is available from most good plumbers merchants in small tubs which should last a good few years for most cavers (although once you've got some, you'll probably find a lot more uses for it).

Maj.

Is silicone grease better than vaseline for everything? ;)
 

Maj

Active member
Be careful, it can be a little stickier than Vaseline  :eek:
But it is used for lubricating ground drainage pipes before inserting into couplings. So if 4 inch diameter is the dimension you've got - prob fine  :LOL:


Maj.
 

cavermark

New member
Maj said:
Caving shreddies.
Don't wear cotton under garment (caving shreddies/T shirts) beneath fury suit etc. They hold the damp water and stay cold for a lot longer. Even just stopping during a caving trip they feel cod and damp. Instead wear man-made fibre under garments eg swimming trunks/rash vest. They hold very little water, and so if damp when putting on they warm up very quickly. Dry quicker in drying rooms etc. so are less likely to be damp in the first place. They don't feel cold and damp when stopping for a break and don't sup the heat away. Also good for underground camps, because again are so much more pleasant to put on in the morning.
I used to wear old cotton shreddies, tried synthetic, will never wear cotton caving shreddies again.

Maj.

I used the term "technical pants" for synthetic undies on a suggested kit list for a recent expedition.  Some of the team thought I was referring to some specialist bedroom activities...  :eek:
 

global_s

New member
cavermark said:
Maj said:
Caving shreddies.
Don't wear cotton under garment (caving shreddies/T shirts) beneath fury suit etc. They hold the damp water and stay cold for a lot longer. Even just stopping during a caving trip they feel cod and damp. Instead wear man-made fibre under garments eg swimming trunks/rash vest. They hold very little water, and so if damp when putting on they warm up very quickly. Dry quicker in drying rooms etc. so are less likely to be damp in the first place. They don't feel cold and damp when stopping for a break and don't sup the heat away. Also good for underground camps, because again are so much more pleasant to put on in the morning.
I used to wear old cotton shreddies, tried synthetic, will never wear cotton caving shreddies again.

Maj.

I used the term "technical pants" for synthetic undies on a suggested kit list for a recent expedition.  Some of the team thought I was referring to some specialist bedroom activities...  :eek:

With all the creeping americanisms I'd have thought you meant softshell trousers. Which would be quite unpleasant under a cave suit. 
 

andychapm

New member
After getting through numerous right handed gloves on expeditions because of the rope wearing holes in the gloves whilst descending, I thought of this.
I cut a rectangle out of an old set of rubber gloves, cut two slits in it.
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It can then be placed over the thumb and forefinger, meaning this will wear out instead of the gloves whilst descending.
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I've now used it on a couple of deep expeditions and have cut my glove expenditure from 5 odd sets to 1 or 2.
 

Maj

Active member
andychapm said:
I cut a rectangle out of an old set of rubber gloves, cut two slits in it.
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Like this idea, will probably work well on saving gloves when hauling skips from a dig.  (y)

Maj.
 
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