Voting members of Council ... i.e. people who are elected to a BCA position or people who attend as representatives of a Regional Council or Constituent Body.Madness said:If a motion is proposed at a BCA Council meeting, who is allowed to vote on it? Just Council members or all BCA members present?
Sort of. I guess it depends on what you term a "motion". If you mean making formal proposals, then no. If you mean asking questions, then - officially - there is nothing to say they can and nothing to say they can't. In practice, though, BCA is open and Council has always sought to respond to members.Madness said:Can anyone put a motion forward?
So any member with a membership card, who is in attendance can vote.BCA Secretary said:If you want to vote at an AGM, then you need to attend in person (and bring your membership card).bazdog said:How do we vote in this assuming an individual member can't make it to the AGM?
However your query relates to a potential Constitutional Change. Assuming any potential change is first approved by an AGM, it must then be approved by postal vote of members, so that would be your opportunity.
This suggests only representatives of constituent bodies, or regional caving bodies can vote.BCA Secretary said:Voting members of Council ... i.e. people who are elected to a BCA position or people who attend as representatives of a Regional Council or Constituent Body.Madness said:If a motion is proposed at a BCA Council meeting, who is allowed to vote on it? Just Council members or all BCA members present?
Aubrey said:If you read the BCA constitution you will find out how it works !!!!!!!!!
The BCA constitution is very long winded and requires reading many times to fully understand exactly what point it is trying to make.Aubrey said:If you read the BCA constitution you will find out how it works !!!!!!!!!
cavermark said:Aubrey said:If you read the BCA constitution you will find out how it works !!!!!!!!!
Exactly the sort of unhelpful attitude that puts many people off getting involved with committees.
Peter Burgess said:Do you know what a representative represents? On one occasion that I was charged with being a rep for my club I canvassed for the opinion of our members and got a 50/50 response for/against a particular matter. I therefore abstained on the matter. The relevant vote for which I had been entrusted to express a view of the club went "for". That doesn't therefore mean that after that I should always vote "for" if the same matter or a related matter came up again. I would continue to express the views of my club, either by asking again or by using the original mandate. How I represent my club if asked to do so again is ENTIRELY the business of my club and its members, and nobody else's.
Peter Burgess said:Do you know what a representative represents? On one occasion that I was charged with being a rep for my club I canvassed for the opinion of our members and got a 50/50 response for/against a particular matter. I therefore abstained on the matter. The relevant vote for which I had been entrusted to express a view of the club went "for". That doesn't therefore mean that after that I should always vote "for" if the same matter or a related matter came up again. I would continue to express the views of my club, either by asking again or by using the original mandate. How I represent my club if asked to do so again is ENTIRELY the business of my club and its members, and nobody else's.
Please understand what I just posted. The BCA ballot was a BCA vote, and was not to discover the views of each member body. If a rep is asked to express another similar view they should continue to vote according to the view of the regional body or whatever.cavemanmike said:but this is not a 50/50 split and nobody is asking you how you should or would represent YOUR club and it's membersPeter Burgess said:Do you know what a representative represents? On one occasion that I was charged with being a rep for my club I canvassed for the opinion of our members and got a 50/50 response for/against a particular matter. I therefore abstained on the matter. The relevant vote for which I had been entrusted to express a view of the club went "for". That doesn't therefore mean that after that I should always vote "for" if the same matter or a related matter came up again. I would continue to express the views of my club, either by asking again or by using the original mandate. How I represent my club if asked to do so again is ENTIRELY the business of my club and its members, and nobody else's.