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Do beards affect caver pecking order?

whitelackington

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cap 'n chris said:
Disagree. Now we're in the 21st century as opposed to the eighteenth, fewer and fewer cavers sport beards. In fact, it's now pretty rare to meet bushy-faced cavers underground (although plenty still hold up the bar in drinking establishments).

Most cavers are now non-beardies in my experience.


And most are now non- smokers :clap:
 
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Dep

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AndyF said:
This is easy.
The bigger and bushier the facial hair, the less likely a caver is to have a wife or girlfriend.
Therefore they get to do a lot more caving and are therefore progressively "harder" and more respected.  ::)
(Retires now to safe distance)

An interesting observation.

I have noticed that some of the most serious cavers (or in fact practitioners of other sports/pastimes too) are often the most odd or socially maladjusted.
Perhaps people who are 'normal' end up tagging along with the normal crowd and doing normal things - and that sure as hell doesn't include caving.

Conversely, those that find it hard to fit into the 'normal' crowd often go out alone and do odd things, and frequently end up with unusual hobbies such as caving.

Many (perhaps even most) of the people I have met caving are odd in some way - and it is often their unique oddity that is the key attribute that makes them good at what they do, in this case caving.

So thumbs up for individuality, non-conformism and idiosyncracies - they truly make the world go round.

I'd like to say I buck the trend and am really a 'normal' person, but that'd be a lie!
 
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Dep

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...and I am also an unusually non-hairy person - I am lucky enough not to need to shave more than once every two days, or just weekly if I am not going out.

It takes me a month to grow a stubble beard which is so irritatingly scratchy I would never bother.
(and my beard shows grey hairs!)

I find bushy beards very odd as I simply cannot imagine why anyone would want all that hair on their face, it would drive me nuts.
 

kay

Well-known member
Dep said:
I have noticed that some of the most serious cavers (or in fact practitioners of other sports/pastimes too) are often the most odd or socially maladjusted.
Perhaps people who are 'normal' end up tagging along with the normal crowd and doing normal things - and that sure as hell doesn't include caving.

Conversely, those that find it hard to fit into the 'normal' crowd often go out alone and do odd things, and frequently end up with unusual hobbies such as caving.

Many (perhaps even most) of the people I have met caving are odd in some way - and it is often their unique oddity that is the key attribute that makes them good at what they do, in this case caving.

So thumbs up for individuality, non-conformism and idiosyncracies - they truly make the world go round.

I'd like to say I buck the trend and am really a 'normal' person, but that'd be a lie!

:clap:

I've long since come to the conclusion that 'sad' (as commonly applied to anyone who takes a deep interest in any subject not involving human social interaction) really means 'someone who is not totally dependent on other people to allow them to enjoy life'.

<sweeping generalisation alert>  If someone calls you 'sad', you can bet that they do damn all with their life apart talking to their mates about what they saw on TV last night.
 

cap n chris

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kay said:
If someone calls you 'sad', you can bet that they do damn all with their life apart talking to thier mates about what they saw on TV last night.

Isn't it weird?! - People say stuff like "You ought to get out more"; thing is, I get out every day and have great thrilling adventures. I suppose what they mean is "You ought to be more boring, like me".
 
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cap 'n chris said:
kay said:
If someone calls you 'sad', you can bet that they do damn all with their life apart talking to thier mates about what they saw on TV last night.

Isn't it weird?! - People say stuff like "You ought to get out more"; thing is, I get out every day and have great thrilling adventures. I suppose what they mean is "You ought to be more boring, like me".

Very true, can't think of any of the 'normal' people I know who openly scorn my desire to visit unusual places (like caves/mines) who could themselves tell me something interesting beyond the plot lines of TV soaps.

The ones who bug me the most are those who I know would enjoy the challenge if they could only be given enough of a nudge (kick up the arse) to actually go and do it.

But on the plus side think how little fun it would be if you met hundreds of 'normal' people in every cave you went to -  it'd drive you nuts. Anything that keeps 'normal' people away is good - all the time they're curled up in front of the telly they're not in my way and have no bearing on my existance.
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
Ian, what does the B in your name stand for? Is it Beard, by any chance?  (y)


Ian likes his beard. A family of doormice live in it; they like it too.
 

ianball11

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That's what I've got at the minute, a good 7 weeks growth to fill out my face and hide the chubbiness of Christmas.

Ian B.
 
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Mr Fell said:
Beards are good if you want to have one. Shame if you are a female and want to have a beard -  :LOL: :LOL:

Beards are bad if you don't want to have one. Shame if you are a female and have a beard!  :eek:
 
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