global warming

[ditzy 24//7]

i have recently heard that there has been an increes in mozzies due to global warming because they are breeding later due to the season tempriture does any one no if this is true?

 

[langcliffe]

I've recently read an in depth well-researched (over 10 years) study which argues coherently and convincingly that the world's population has already tipped the brink into major, rapid, catastrophic decline resulting in the loss of about 90% of the present world's population due to famine, disease, wars and collapse of manufacturing, distribution and economies. Given that dying is worse than sun burn, doesn't this take priority over global warming being of concern?

Maybe there's hope for the world, after all.

 

[graham]

I've recently read an in depth well-researched (over 10 years) study which argues coherently and convincingly that the world's population has already tipped the brink into major, rapid, catastrophic decline resulting in the loss of about 90% of the present world's population due to famine, disease, wars and collapse of manufacturing, distribution and economies. Given that dying is worse than sun burn, doesn't this take priority over global warming being of concern?

Ref: The Rapid Growth of Human Populations 1750 - 2000, by Dr William Stanton, Multi-Science Publishing, September 2003, ISBN 0 906 522 218

Ah, Willie's book, yes. Bear in mind that the two subjects are closely related.

 

[Peter Burgess]

A 'mozi' in Hungary can entice children in their hundreds inside them, having fleeced them of all their pocket money, and then releases them again after a couple of hours.

 

[Hughie]

What has/is happening to those estuaries that is an example of isostacy? - Just interested to know!

As Scotland rises, the south coast sinks (as a piece of floating wood does when you remove a weight from one end), drowning the valleys and forming the estuaries.

I was trying to remember from my studying days! I thought it was only the South East of England was sinking for that reason, but on relooking in my Holocene book it does seem to cover the south west coast too. Oh joy! We shall drown even sooner.

 

[Peter Burgess]

What we need is some major tectonic activity that will thrust the Wealden anticline upwards, then bring to bear some major erosive agent, exposing the deeply buried Carboniferous limestone beneath east Kent, then lots of rain to make some nice caves, then I won't have so far to travel to go caving. Or if that doesn't happen, wait for someone to start mining it.

http://www.kent.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3374CBA4-127F-4308-8077-43B24D960771/0/061130dpdconstructionaggs.pdf

 

[Peter Burgess]

i have recently heard that there has been an increes in mozzies due to global warming because they are breeding later due to the season tempriture does any one no if this is true?

I was out on Sunday at dusk, and saw midgie-like insects dancing in the late sunlight over a pond. So they are out and about.

 

[AndyF]

I've recently read an in depth well-researched (over 10 years) study which argues coherently and convincingly that the world's population has already tipped the brink into major, rapid, catastrophic decline resulting in the loss of about 90% of the present world's population due to famine, disease, wars and collapse of manufacturing, distribution and economies. Given that dying is worse than sun burn, doesn't this take priority over global warming being of concern?

Ref: The Rapid Growth of Human Populations 1750 - 2000, by Dr William Stanton, Multi-Science Publishing, September 2003, ISBN 0 906 522 218

Well no matter how well argued, it would appear to be wrong since world population has increased since 2000. Still when did academics let facts get in the way of a research paper  :

What were the proposed "causes" of this collapse.....was global warming one of them...?

 

[Peter Burgess]

The statement that Chris made was that the population 'has already tipped the brink ... resulting in etc etc'

I read this to mean that the result WILL BE rather than the result HAS BEEN.

 

[AndyF]

The statement that Chris made was that the population 'has already tipped the brink ... resulting in etc etc'

I read this to mean that the result WILL BE rather than the result HAS BEEN.

Ah, you see I picked up on the phrase "has already"...  but maybe thats just pedantic 

 

[bat]

It's the melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet that will cause the main problems rather than the North Pole sea ice.

Sorry for the late comment  (could not log on) but I think it is the expansion of the water in the oceans as the general temperature rises that will be responsible for most of the rise in the sea level

 

[AndyF]

It's the melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet that will cause the main problems rather than the North Pole sea ice.

Sorry for the late comment  (could not log on) but I think it is the expansion of the water in the oceans as the general temperature rises that will be responsible for most of the rise in the sea level

That would surprise me. Water has a very low expansion rate, especially over just a couple of degrees which is all we need concern oureselves with for global warming. (Any more than that and its game over.)

Sunlight also only warms the very top layers of sea, below a few meters the temperature in the middle of the oceans is very low and reasonably contant. Between 4 celcius and 10 celcius, water expansion is 0.03%.

 

[langcliffe]

Sorry for the late comment  (could not log on) but I think it is the expansion of the water in the oceans as the general temperature rises that will be responsible for most of the rise in the sea level

You may be right, but there's about 70 m of "sea level" bound up in the icecaps, but current models indicate that thermal expansion will be responsible for a rise in sea level of about 10 cm per degree . The icecaps would probably disappear if there were a ten degree rise in temperature (comparable with Cretaceous temperatures), but that would only cause a rise of a metre by thermal expansion.

 

[whitelackington]

Even though sea level has risen by 130 metres
since the maximum glaciation
we are still at a time of extreme low sea levels
there is a rise of two hundred metres
waiting to bring us back to long term normal.

 

[andymorgan]

I've recently read an in depth well-researched (over 10 years) study which argues coherently and convincingly that the world's population has already tipped the brink into major, rapid, catastrophic decline resulting in the loss of about 90% of the present world's population due to famine, disease, wars and collapse of manufacturing, distribution and economies. Given that dying is worse than sun burn, doesn't this take priority over global warming being of concern?

Ref: The Rapid Growth of Human Populations 1750 - 2000, by Dr William Stanton, Multi-Science Publishing, September 2003, ISBN 0 906 522 218

It isn't a peer reviewed article, so has less validity than such an article.

 

[Peter Burgess]

I've recently read an in depth well-researched (over 10 years) study which argues coherently and convincingly that the world's population has already tipped the brink into major, rapid, catastrophic decline resulting in the loss of about 90% of the present world's population due to famine, disease, wars and collapse of manufacturing, distribution and economies. Given that dying is worse than sun burn, doesn't this take priority over global warming being of concern?

Ref: The Rapid Growth of Human Populations 1750 - 2000, by Dr William Stanton, Multi-Science Publishing, September 2003, ISBN 0 906 522 218

It isn't a peer reviewed article, so has less validity than such an article.

On that basis, practically everything I have ever written is complete rubbish.  Come to think of it, you might be right....

 

[andymorgan]

While I am not saying all books are wrong, it easier to publish stuff in books that is completely wrong: at its most extreme holocaust denying 'history' books. A peer review process helps to keep out the bad stuff. Of course this is not perfect, and a lot of bad stuff is still published in journals.

 

[cap n chris]

Suggest you read Stanislav Andreski's "Social Sciences as Sorcery" for a damning indictment of peer reviewing perpetuating the cosy jobs-for-the-boys brigade, keeping out anyone likely to rock boats.

 

[andymorgan]

I'm not talking about social sciences 

 

[Billy Butcombe]

All this global warming stuff is scary. I looked in next doors garden the other day and there is a rose bush coming into leaf - no kidding