Vegan food

kay

kay

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Fjell said:
Vegetarian food in other cultures does not pretend to be meat in any way. Nowhere I have lived does that. Far East, Middle East, wherever. It’s just bizarre.

Now I think about it, I have never seen it in Europe either. But it‘s a nearly a decade since I lived there, so who knows?
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Are you talking about vegetarian food where the main culture isn't vegetarian but a number of people who have decided to become so; or vegetarian food where it's the main culture?
 
kay

kay

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Not as old as AndrewMcLeod's examples, but over 100 years old:

Mock Goose
6oz split red lentils
1/2 pint water
1 tablespoon lemon juice
Salt and pepper
For the stuffing:
1 large onion, chopped
2oz wholemeal fresh breadcrumbs
1 tablespoon fresh sage, chopped
 
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Fjell

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thehungrytroglobite said:
Quite an extreme response. We can end intensive farming without a complete cull of all these animals. Cows & pigs especially can actually assist rewiliding / biodiversity regeneration through their wide ranging grazing habits. But use of the fields would be much more efficient if people had more plant based diets. The diversification of farming isn't as radical as it seems, before the industrial revolution farming practices were much less damaging.
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In 1750 the population of England was less than 6 million and many went hungry. Not a good look really.
 
thehungrytroglobite

thehungrytroglobite

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Fjell said:
In 1750 the population of England was less than 6 million and many went hungry. Not a good look really.
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The point was that intensive sheep grazing has wrecked the natural environment (in comparison to traditional farming practices such as shepherding & diversification) and we would do well to reverse that shift to a degree, not that we should revert back to 1750 entirely.

Either way, meat alternatives won't do any harm, they simply make vegetarianism & veganism more accessible to people. It's no more 'processed' than lots of the other foods people eat nowadays.

I was made in a lab, just like Quorn. So I suppose I am equally processed.
 
thehungrytroglobite

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Exciting news for the vegans out there - I found vegan philadelphia in the settle co op! And vegan greek yoghurt! I haven't tried them yet but excited to see there are more options locally :)
 
Winnat's Caver

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Fjell said:
If we get rid of all the cows, pigs and sheep in the UK, the only non-human mammal biomass is going to be cats and dogs pretty much. And if you see the CO2 footprint of the latter, then they are for the chop I suspect - either just for the CO2 or when people wake up to it being a hideous form of slavery. Horses too probably when they finally ban horse racing and hunting.

Just doing the maths.
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Badgers, voles, rabbits, hares, otters, deer, mice, shrews, foxes, perhaps beavers soon! And that's far from a complete list - This island is far more beautiful and biodiverse than people give it credit for ;)
 
Winnat's Caver

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mikem said:
Half of above are introduced species though. Worldwide there are surprisingly few wild mammals left (& about twice as much biomass of domestic animals as humans):
www.theguardian.com

‘A wake-up call’: total weight of wild mammals less than 10% of humanity’s

From elephants to tigers, study reveals scale of damage to wildlife caused by transformation of wildernesses and human activity
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Depressing! All the more reason to create a better future through rewilding, sustainable farming with less intensive sheep and cattle grazing, and reduction of C02 emissions. (Perhaps this is what you've been arguing - I've not been following this thread!)
 
andrewmcleod

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thehungrytroglobite said:
Exciting news for the vegans out there - I found vegan philadelphia in the settle co op! And vegan greek yoghurt! I haven't tried them yet but excited to see there are more options locally :)
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unfortunately you can't get Alpro yoghurts (at least not the four-packs) any more in the Ingleton petrol station after it changed from Coop to ASDA.
 
Rachel

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I can recommend Beck Hall in Malham for an excellent vegan afternoon tea. Booking ahead via the website is essential, as is arriving in Malham very early to get parking.
 
kay

kay

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Some Co-ops are genuine Co-ops, some Co-ops are franchises run by whoever took over costcutter. Of course that might not be the explanation. Store managers are responsible for ordering the food for their store. Perhaps the Bentham and Ingleton store managers have differing perceptions of the numbers of vegans in their customer base.
 
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Fjell

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Clearly you need to shop more at Booths in Kirkby. Class-based shelf-stacking is one of the defining issues of our times.
 
badger

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To me this thread suggesting meat free is vegan, meat free to me is vegetarian, diary and eggs are acceptable. Whilst vegan includes dairy and eggs on their list of do not eat.
Luckily we are still free to choose in the UK and most of the world, and we should all respect each other's choice.
And eating food should be about the quality, a good vegetarian meal would beat a bad cooked meat meal.
If I am cooking vegetarian apart from Tofu probably would not go for the meat alternatives, there is plenty of really good veggie meals recipes.
 
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